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Posted 28/02/10 11:56 AM
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Hi,

Seeing the pictures of my J&P, you may have noticed, that I had removed the third brake light.

But I came to the conclusion, that I want to be legal again. So I painted the "cobra" holding the original light in mat-black, so it would be a bit more discrete than in yellow. (1st picture)

Still didn't really like the result. So I came up with the solution, of installing the original light under the spare wheel.

What do you think?

Sunny greetings from stormy Luxembourg,
Ivo
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#41122 - 28/02/10 12:32 PM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Ivo]
1560 Offline
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original and in the dark certainly no problem
but in sunlight???
anyway,
hope you get away with it speakno
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#41123 - 28/02/10 01:21 PM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: 1560]
Vampirex Offline
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Registered: 16/08/09
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Loc: Normandy, France
Hi Ivo,
I don't know in other European countries, but in France it is not legal to do so.
BR.
Daniel.

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#41128 - 28/02/10 05:28 PM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Vampirex]
Trent Offline
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Ivo,

It is a very neat job but I wonder if you have a test similar to our MOT in Luxemborg? On cars older than 3 years we are required to have them certified road worthy every year. I would question whether they would fail our cars for a modification such as the one you have made.

regards

Trent

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#41131 - 28/02/10 05:57 PM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Trent]
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A nice neat solution Ivo, and looks great in the dark.

I like the 'cobra' description for the stalk!! thumbs
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#41134 - 28/02/10 11:17 PM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Ivo]
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At least you will have fun Welding the Cobra's Head back on, while thinking up your next 'Fettle' Ivo rofl
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#41140 - 01/03/10 11:52 AM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Trent]
Ivo Offline
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Originally Posted By: Trent
Ivo,

It is a very neat job but I wonder if you have a test similar to our MOT in Luxemborg? On cars older than 3 years we are required to have them certified road worthy every year. I would question whether they would fail our cars for a modification such as the one you have made.

regards

Trent


Yes, we do. The first test is after three and a half years from new, and yearly thereafter.

What makes you think, it might fail? It is the original Lucas lamp, which is relocated now. I'm confident, that everything will be fine.
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#41141 - 01/03/10 11:57 AM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Frank 4x4]
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Originally Posted By: Frank 4x4
At least you will have fun Welding the Cobra's Head back on, while thinking up your next 'Fettle' Ivo rofl


No need for welding, as the cobra remained intact. I just removed and relocated the lamp.
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#41142 - 01/03/10 12:18 PM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Vampirex]
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Originally Posted By: Vampirex
Hi Ivo,
I don't know in other European countries, but in France it is not legal to do so.
BR.
Daniel.


I have followed the 3rd-brake-light-discussion in the French forum. You probably did as well. Unfortunately, I don't remember all the details and I'm not able to find it back anymore. Are you sure, that it's not legal, or do you only assume it?

I mean... That light is found in so many places on the different cars. I admit, that this one is rather unusual, but why should it be illegal?

Anyway... my first MOT will be in April 2011, so I'll let you know whether it passed or not.
Sunny greetings, cheers
Ivo
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#41154 - 01/03/10 07:30 PM Re: 3rd brake light [Re: Ivo]
Vampirex Offline
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Registered: 16/08/09
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Originally Posted By: Ivo
Originally Posted By: Vampirex
Hi Ivo,
I don't know in other European countries, but in France it is not legal to do so.
BR.
Daniel.


I have followed the 3rd-brake-light-discussion in the French forum. You probably did as well. Unfortunately, I don't remember all the details and I'm not able to find it back anymore. Are you sure, that it's not legal, or do you only assume it?

I mean... That light is found in so many places on the different cars. I admit, that this one is rather unusual, but why should it be illegal?

Anyway... my first MOT will be in April 2011, so I'll let you know whether it passed or not.
Sunny greetings, cheers
Ivo




Hi Ivo,
I remember this thread and I looked everywhere to find out complementary data. What I found is typically French. It appears that only 2 stops light are mandatory except if your car has been homologated with a 3rd stop, in which case it must be functional. Moreover the 3rd stop light has to be at least at 90cm from the floor and the location cannot be changed or modified. If the 3rd stop light is not conform to the regulation, the fault has to be corrected and the car has to have a new MOT examination.
I asked my Insurer and contrary to what we spoke on this thread he answered me that it is not a reason to have troubles with the insurances. Only modifications that can improve the performance of the car can do that.
Anyway your work is superb and your car looks better without the rear periscope.
BR.
Daniel.

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