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2CV derivatives at Spa. #601435
29/10/19 07:59 AM
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2CV derivatives at Spa.

A few snaps taken this weekend at the 2CV 24 hours race at Spa. About 500 of the cars turned up from all around Europe including some interesting looking derivatives.

Several Lomaxes, although unusually all four-wheelers. One 3-wheel car whose name I've forgotten. However, a version that I found most interesting was the Burton, a kit made by a Dutch company. A bit Morgan influenced in the grill and an MGA look from behind. Never seen one before and I wasn't sure to start with but they grew on me over the weekend, especially as two of them took part in the race.

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Re: 2CV derivatives at Spa. [Re: Ian Wegg] #601451
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Thanks for sharing those, I'll bet it was great fun watching the racing I've always had a soft spot for these little Citroens since owning an Ami 8, great fun and a challenge keeping the inertia going.


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Interesting series of pics thanks for posting Ian. Great to see folk having fun in and with all sorts of machinery. Part of me has a real appreciation for utilitarian vehicles and I suspect the 2CV may well have been one of the best, if not the best.

I have distant memories of the Africar, which really had a chassis (monocoque) made of wood... (-: Perhaps it could return as a green (ish) alternative..Hmm ???

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The 3 wheeler is a Blackjack Avion. I had a fleeting thought of getting a 2 CV to keep at our place in inland Andalucia, Spain, it would be just the job for the local villages but with the Spanish tendency to tail gate, not so good for the steep winding roads from the coast I fear.


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ISome years ago Iwas looking at the Burton range because I liked the "oldfashion" look.

But I rearly did not like the 2CV engine sound!

That was before I have seen a Morgan for the first time love - The Morgan for me was the perfekt version of the cheap Burton.

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Re: 2CV derivatives at Spa. [Re: Ian Wegg] #601486
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The Burton would be in a different league to a Morgan in terms of suspension! Having made the 8 hour each way journey in my mate's 2CV I was amazed at how comfortable it was. But yes, the engine is the letdown!


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Originally Posted by Luddite

I have distant memories of the Africar, which really had a chassis (monocoque) made of wood... (-: Perhaps it could return as a green (ish) alternative..Hmm ???


When I worked for a building firm in London in the 80s I organized some work for the creator of the Africar. We re-decorated the basement flat of his house off the Goldhawk Road. His wife was very chatty and drove my painter nuts.

I thought him an interesting guy, and the Africar quite an inspired idea; in particular I recall that one of the features was that the car would have the same track as trucks, to better cope with rutted roads.

Sadly he couldn't get the money together to move the project beyond some basic prototypes. IIRC he ended up doing a spell at her majesty's pleasure for fraud, tho' I always thought it was probably more likely that he was careless with the book-keeping than a rip-off merchant.

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I remember the Channel 4 series about the Africar and I still have the book that went with it. It did seem a worthwhile project.


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Originally Posted by Ian Wegg
I remember the Channel 4 series about the Africar and I still have the book that went with it. It did seem a worthwhile project.

Me too! smile
(Considering the thread title perhaps that should be moi aussi! grin2 )

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Re: 2CV derivatives at Spa. [Re: Ian Wegg] #601695
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It was a good series .



Regards Richard

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