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#170796 - 13/12/13 03:40 PM 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor
WOX9 Offline
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Registered: 15/04/10
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Loc: Worcestershire
Can anyone help with an alternative starter motor for my 1994 Morgan +4 all std with the Rover Tomcat engine. I would like to fit a high torque starter motor. Having been told the wrong type 5 times so far by suppliers I need to know the correct standard starter for the car.
Its fitted with a Magneti Marelli Type M79(0.9), Model 26627D made in 1998, so far I can't even trace this or a std equivalent on the internet. Can any one suggest an alternative make and or model number please?
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#170827 - 13/12/13 06:47 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: WOX9]
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#170840 - 13/12/13 07:33 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: WOX9]
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Ask Tim or Darren at New Elms - they've fitted a few Hi-Torque starters over the years and should know! smile
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#170873 - 13/12/13 09:17 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: GerryWal]
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Yes and the chap who runs it is a very nice chap can't do enough for you . thumbs
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#171202 - 16/12/13 03:24 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: WOX9]
WOX9 Offline
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Registered: 15/04/10
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Loc: Worcestershire
Tks all
Since Friday another 3 suppliers have come with zero or wrong info. Powerlite was the first I went to at the classic car show, they had 4 guys, all who came up with different number, even looked at my car on the Dream Rides stand (it was the light green + 4 if anyone was there), then sold me one, it turned out to be nothing like when I took the old one off.
The RAC 409 seems close, but not exact.
Powerlite are still trying and have all the details, they seem a good company and are local to me, he ho lets hope...
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#171524 - 18/12/13 05:52 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: WOX9]
WOX9 Offline
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Loc: Worcestershire
Problem solved but its good news / bad news....
Bad news is that these starter motors were a special model built for Morgan in the 1990's and are not fitted to any other vehicle, I think the rotation is opposite to the ones used in the std Rover 800 T16 engines. Also this means that a Hi Torque one is not available off the shelf.
Slightly better news - Powerlite will build one if needed, though at a price..
Even slightly better news - they can of course be rebuilt.
Finally the good news - they are available off the shelf at the Morgan factory and no doubt through dealers. I called in there yesterday quoted the engine number and within 3 minutes I had a new one. I was told the factory modified them a little but didn't know how, I believe it to be a slightly and crudely (even by Morgan standards) modified and extended power connector on the solenoid.
So if you need one grab them whilst they are still around...
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#171584 - 19/12/13 01:24 AM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: WOX9]
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Very useful info WOX9 - thanks.
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#272931 - 06/05/15 10:30 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: WOX9]
Fossey Offline
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Registered: 28/09/14
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Loc: Banbury uk
Hi
Had a similar issue on my 1990 m16 plus
Solution is rather odd in that the starter is actually from a Leyland sheep's van - the location holes are slightly narrower than the rover 800 unit
Might help
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#272932 - 06/05/15 10:31 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: WOX9]
Fossey Offline
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Registered: 28/09/14
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Loc: Banbury uk
That would be sherpa not sheep. Illiterate autocorrect
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#272937 - 06/05/15 11:12 PM Re: 1994 Morgan +4 starter motor [Re: Fossey]
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I dunno, I like the sound of a Sheep Van.
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