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Porsche Madness #182284
16/02/14 05:17 PM
16/02/14 05:17 PM
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I know Porsches are anathema to many Morgan owners, but I have fancied a classic Porker for a while and really, really, really want this gorgeous 1987 45k 930 Turbo.

There are loads of reasons why it doesn't make sense - lack of use, potential on going costs etc but I am still finding reasons to justify it love

Some of you have two plus Mogs which must be hard to justify.

Have offered to go halves with a friend - car share, but he is wavering so it might not happen.

It's been restored, new paint, rebuilt gearbox, newish turbo.

If anyone can talk me down from the precipice and away from this hopefully tempory Porsche induced madness it would be nice.

Very tempting I don't need it, but I need it. juggle






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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182286
16/02/14 05:33 PM
16/02/14 05:33 PM
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Sharing a car is a good way to lose a friend. Especially if there's a costly repair which one and not the other causes.
On the odd occasion I've shared a tool with a friend, it never worked out. Family might work, but what if the friend wants out before you do? Or vice versa.
Then it's a 27 year old car with shiny paint, but what's underneath? Are you prepared to have an engineers report, and have you checked out how you would insure a joint ownership car and what that would cost?
I can tackle a lot of jobs on old cars and I've toyed with the idea of a classic 911, but in my opinion, the enjoyment you'll get from one could easily go sour with a big bill or two.

On the subject of justifying it - to yourself or others? My view has always been if you have the space and want it, and can afford it - just do it. If your friend won't play, go for a cheaper 911 on your own and get it out of your system.
A mate of mine was desperate for a Jensen Interceptor. He knew the risks. I told him the same thing. Get one and you'll either love it or be rid within a year. It lasted a year.
I had the same experience with my Gilbern Invader. A massive disappointment.

There you go. End of sermon.

PS - or chop the Morgan in in part ex.

Last edited by DaveW; 16/02/14 05:35 PM. Reason: PS

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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182289
16/02/14 05:49 PM
16/02/14 05:49 PM
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"Halfers", Ummm, personally I wouldn't go there. During the mid-sixties my daily drive was a 356 B coupe which I did enjoy but always felt somewhat ambivalent about. I don't think I would go back down that road again.
Lustful ambitions, (women or automobiles)are always problematic. Seriously, I don't think anyone here can truly help solve your dilemma.

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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182293
16/02/14 05:55 PM
16/02/14 05:55 PM
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Eton, Berks
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My brother and I share a track day car and it has worked really well. Apart from consumables, we share ALL costs 50:50 and it has not been a problem. We have a monthly spreadsheet that spells out our 'investment' into the car and what we both owe!

For me if fractional ownership is the way to go to realise your dream, why not? Just make sure you're both clear on the rules and then I'd go for it David, but do keep us all in the loop!

Good luck woohoo

Brian


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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182307
16/02/14 06:46 PM
16/02/14 06:46 PM
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UK, Lancashire
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David,

IMHO life is made up of a series of experiences; we only pass this way once and it's not a practice run...
(Sorry to all those who have a belief and for expressing this on a Sunday hide ).

I enjoyed my 911, they are a special and different car that, if you can, you should experience at least once. Apologies again to all for this heresy on a Morgan stronghold smile

Also, if I understand correctly, your last two Morgans have been a similar colour of blue, so it is even the right colour thumbs

From the photos, it looks to be a lovely car, with quite a bit of restoration work done, especially on the interior. But, DaveW's cautionary words are well put. You'd need to get a thorough PPI / engineering inspection done on it first so you go in with your eyes open.

Finally, noting Brian's comments about successful sharing with his brother, sharing with a friend would not be on my agenda, personally I'd tend to lean more to DaveW's advice again here.

Whatever you decide, good luck MZ.


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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: MonteZooma] #182314
16/02/14 07:08 PM
16/02/14 07:08 PM
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The doyen of Porsche Inspections is Peter Morgan and his team of engineers round the country.

Cheers
Brian


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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182317
16/02/14 07:32 PM
16/02/14 07:32 PM
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My neighbour shares a 911 (997) with his brother-in-law, 6 months in they are still on speaking terms.

Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182318
16/02/14 07:39 PM
16/02/14 07:39 PM
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If your going to share, make sure you both have the same depth pockets spend


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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182320
16/02/14 07:45 PM
16/02/14 07:45 PM
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I regret not spending extra and buying a 911 instead of the Boxster. But, the 986 was a lot more practical proposition at the time.

You only live once. If a full report shows it to be a decent car, go for it. You shouldn't lose any money, they are an appreciating classic now.


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Re: Porsche Madness [Re: Clipper] #182334
16/02/14 08:58 PM
16/02/14 08:58 PM
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scotland
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We are on our 5th and with modern cars I hate the current 911 c4s it is dropping in value by around 8000 a year + service,insurance and running costs. We're by a classic it should keep its price but repair bills could go though the roof

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