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winter car storage #223973
23/09/14 03:00 PM
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I am a new owner and am looking for storage for my 4/4 for several weeks in the winter.
I just need somewhere dry and secure. I imagine the battery would need charging perhaps once a month? so would need access for this, unless the site operator offers this facility.
I live in the Manchester area and am aware of a couple of commercial operators in the south Midlands but would prefer somewhere nearer if possible. I have spoken to several dealers, some of whom offer the service, or recommend companies local to them but it seems my more local dealers do not. Can anyone help please?

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Why not use your car in the winter?


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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #223983
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Forgive me if this is an un-necessary question, but is it vital you store it? Much better to drive it on crisp winter days. But, if stored, ensure power is available and keep a battery conditioner connected. Mine is a CTEK XS 3600. During the last four years the conditioner has been connected without fail each time the car is garaged, and it has never failed to start first time.

And I believe wisdom dictates that the hood should be up when stored in order to keep it tensioned and crease-free.


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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #223984
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And I believe wisdom dictates that the hood should be up when stored in order to keep it tensioned and crease-free.

I also but a large bowl of salt inside the car cheaper than a Dehumidifiers


Very much in the dog house, could be up for rehoming
Re: winter car storage [Re: mutley] #224001
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Originally Posted By mutley
I also but a large bowl of salt inside the car cheaper than a Dehumidifiers

Is it "Hydroscopic" or "Hygroscopic"?


Best Regards
Lang may yer lum reek
Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224019
23/09/14 05:55 PM
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Welcome to TM. We're just along the M56 near to Chester & get great satisfaction in using it during the winter too just avoiding the rally salty days. However, if you do want to store you could try these people between Macclesfield & Wilmslow http://www.ccbenz.co.uk/?page_id=71. I've no personal knowledge or connection so can't vouch for them but might be a starting point.


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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224027
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Please don't store the car. Not only are they brilliant in winter as the often lower grip makes for lower speed fun but using the car regularly is the best way to keep it in good condition. I would recommend using the tonneau cover to keep as much heat in as possible if you are in the car on your own. Don't worry about it raining, we all wash our cars and that gets them wet as well, and even in the snow they are surprisingly capable and brilliant fun. I thought I was mad driving my 4/4 in the snow with the hood up and heater keeping me toasty but a plus 8 coming towards me hood down and driver grinning beneath his flying helmet and goggles made me feel like a wimp. It was a heartily waved greeting as we passed!


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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224036
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You just have to keep those wheels and engines turning to prevent dementia setting in.

Taken on Dartmoor a couple of years back in the 4/4 Sport topless sans sidescreens - the previous Plus 8 and this one will be regular winter visitors to Princetown for an early heart attack on a plate...



They are like us totally waterproof provided the appropriate orifices are covered - and a good drying run afterwards or borrow the Mrs hairdryer.



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Re: winter car storage [Re: +8Rich] #224039
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I agree Richard. The enjoyment of driving when it's -4C with no hood is magical. A good flying jacket and that fab heater on the 4/4 Sport makes you think summer time isn't that much better! Apart from pavement TOTH wear less in the summer! joy


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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224040
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Plus 1 for frosty winter morning motoring. thumbs


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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224043
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Somehow it's far more exhilarating and you end up with a red glow for a couple of days with the wind burn thumbs

Agree with you about the scenery Roger wink


Regards Richard

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When the seriously fastidious Dave W writes this you know it makes sense to keep the wheels turning.

I'm sure he won't mind me saying this.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
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Re: winter car storage [Re: +8Rich] #224045
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Originally Posted By 4/4sportsfun
When the seriously fastidious Dave W writes this you know it makes sense to keep the wheels turning.

I'm sure he won't mind me saying this.


thumbs


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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224065
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Keep it ready to use in the winter!
Don't worry about wet days, but avoid salty wet days.
Use a CTEK battery conditioner, as above.
Heated seats are great! (See Allon-White)
The heater is powerful on newer cars.
Warm clothes, hat, and gloves.
Have fun! It's what you bought the car for, surely?

Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224083
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Drive it, don't store it.......I manage at least two trips per month even in January and Feb.


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Re: winter car storage [Re: BobtheTrain] #224084
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Hygroscopic - and 'common salt' only absorbs a little atmospheric moisture. Sodium sulphate absorbs more but I would strongly advise against using any chemicals - you have a large and readily active battery when aluminum panels and galvanized steel meet anything liquid and conductive...........Al + Zn + Fe + H2O = FIZZ

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Originally Posted By BobtheTrain
Originally Posted By mutley
I also but a large bowl of salt inside the car cheaper than a Dehumidifiers

Is it "Hydroscopic" or "Hygroscopic"?


Which one do you put on chips as that the one I use


Very much in the dog house, could be up for rehoming
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Originally Posted By mutley
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I also but a large bowl of salt inside the car cheaper than a Dehumidifiers

Is it "Hydroscopic" or "Hygroscopic"?


Which one do you put on chips as that the one I use


Back to food again off to troon for lunch I think in the morning


Very much in the dog house, could be up for rehoming
Re: winter car storage [Re: mutley] #224091
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Originally Posted By mutley
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I also but a large bowl of salt inside the car cheaper than a Dehumidifiers

Is it "Hydroscopic" or "Hygroscopic"?


Which one do you put on chips as that the one I use


Back to food again off to troon for lunch I think in the morning


Trade in the +4 to a +8 need more room


Very much in the dog house, could be up for rehoming
Re: winter car storage [Re: mutley] #224096
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Meant to be a good day, weather wise. My local chippie doesn't rate the Wee Hurrie, said he was served by a 20 year old and the chips were dripping.

My +8 impressed you that much?

Last edited by BobtheTrain; 23/09/14 10:44 PM.

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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224101
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Hi there,

Firstly I had to Google "winter"...now I understand smile

GoMoG has this. Seems logical to me if you must not use your car.

R.


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Bob when my car goes back to the factory drop yours off and I will drive it for a number of weeks, please could I have your credit card for fuel and food.

The best fish supper is balloch next to the train station only open evenings 3.50 for single fish supper never had a bed one


Very much in the dog house, could be up for rehoming
Re: winter car storage [Re: Richard - Aus] #224107
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Originally Posted By Richard - Aus
Hi there,

Firstly I had to Google "winter"...now I understand smile

GoMoG has this. Seems logical to me if you must not use your car.

R.

laugh2 Richard you have been in West Oz long enough now to understand Winter is when you only get 4 sunny days a week cheers


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To echo many posts...Mogs are not just for summer!!

They are modern cars. Their ability to withstand corrosion is as good, if not better, than many traditional cars.

If there is salt on the road make sure you regularly wash underneath as well as on top. But otherwise drive it as normal.

There is magic in driving an open car on a cold and frosty day and a cold and frosty night is even better. I have a heated waistcoat: with the heater on and a hat and gloves it is warm enough hood down.

I simply can't understand why anyone would want to cocoon a Mog for the winter. Garage it, yes. De-humidify the garage if needed. But put it in prison? NO!

If you are really concerned about winter traction fit mud and snow tyres.



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Originally Posted By Aldermog
I have a heated waistcoat: with the heater on and a hat and gloves it is warm enough hood down.


roflI have an image of this Peter, exting does the waistcoat plug into the auxillary power? I used to think heated seats were extravagant. thumbs

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Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224113
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If you are thinking of storing then think carefully, in my experience it does a car no good. IMHO If left sitting for a long time, tyres flat spot, bushes can oval, and rubber harden, sliding parts can start to corrode and slightly seize ( bad on Mog front suspension), all meaning premature wear with little use and additional service costs. I know this from experience with a low mileage Morgan which needed full suspension rebuild after just 22k miles spread over 16 years, ridiculous! Also brakes had issues as well.

If your storing car put up on axle stands to relieve weight fron suspension and so on although there are still issues with this, make sure everything is well oiled and greased up. A Trad. Morgan chassis is quite flexible and can caused squeaking as it flexes, I think rubbing of wings against seals, so lubricate with ACF50, a great corrosion inhibitor used in Aircraft industry on aluminium etc.. If I lay up my car this is what I do but if there is a dry day then off the stands for a lovely 20-30 mile blast to get everything moving. I like to do this at least twice a month.

Cars are pretty well under sealed so a drive in the wet is the unlikely to hurt it, if road salting done then wash off underneath and leave to dry off in the wind before putting in garage.

I have come the view like several others here it is better to use it and enjoy rather than let it sit and rot and seize up in a garage. cheers


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Some of us do not have power in our garages, but yes use it best way to keep the battery topped up. My garage is in a block and over the next few weeks will put a 10 watt solar panel on the front of the garage wall, await complaints but the roof is slate, hopefully this will extend the time the immobiliser kills the battery.

Re: winter car storage [Re: prospectiveowner] #224641
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Solar powered battery conditioners can be had from MAPLINS for as little as 12-49 delivered.
I know I just bought one


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLAR-POWERED-...=item2c76ec1fa8



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Originally Posted By stevemag
Solar powered battery conditioners can be had from MAPLINS for as little as 12-49 delivered.
I know I just bought one


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLAR-POWERED-...=item2c76ec1fa8



The Marlins ones are good but the car has to be outside, if I am travelling, for pleasure, the car is in the garage. Hence the project.

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Originally Posted By recycled-teenager
Originally Posted By stevemag
Solar powered battery conditioners can be had from MAPLINS for as little as 12-49 delivered.
I know I just bought one


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLAR-POWERED-...=item2c76ec1fa8



The Marlins ones are good but the car has to be outside, if I am travelling, for pleasure, the car is in the garage. Hence the project.


I disagree I fitted mine to the wall of the garage and fed the cable through a drilled hole. It works fine


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Originally Posted By John V6
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Originally Posted By stevemag
Solar powered battery conditioners can be had from MAPLINS for as little as 12-49 delivered.
I know I just bought one


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLAR-POWERED-...=item2c76ec1fa8



The Marlins ones are good but the car has to be outside, if I am travelling, for pleasure, the car is in the garage. Hence the project.


I disagree I fitted mine to the wall of the garage and fed the cable through a drilled hole. It works fine


Good point John, I think what I am building / configuring is a slightly more powerful version based on the size of my South facing wall that is mine in the block. Got all the bits now so will start next week once the kitchen company starts revoving the old and installing the new!!!

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The Maplins one even has 4 suckers fitted so you can stick it to the inside of you car screen if the cars not in the garage

Sorted !

My car is garaged and the solar panel is fitted inside the garage on a glass window facing the direction of the sun.
(charger lead pluged into 12v socket beneath the dashboard

Sorted x2



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I store my motorhome at Yew Tree farm near to Great Budworth which is 5 miles from Knutsford. They also store cars and happily trickle charge batterys for a couple of days each month.

http://www.yell.com/biz/secure-indoor-parking-northwich-3325609/


Also down the road at Appleton - TR Bitz also offer a car storage location.

http://www.trbitz.com/


Both these companys are very hot on security and very vague to there exact location to deter the naughty people in life !

http://www.lancashirecarstorage.co.uk/vehicles.php


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