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#275295 - 18/05/15 01:45 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: Richard - Aus]
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Originally Posted By Richard - Aus
Tow backwards


On an A frame? How would that help?
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#275304 - 18/05/15 02:32 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Richard - Aus
Tow backwards


On an A frame? How would that help?


Front wheels on the road, rears on the frame?
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#275378 - 18/05/15 08:02 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: ATL]
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All four on the floor with an A-frame Peter... smile
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#275403 - 18/05/15 09:05 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Richard - Aus
Tow backwards


On an A frame? How would that help?


Front wheels on the road, rears on the frame?


That's what I was thinking....
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#275405 - 18/05/15 09:10 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Richard - Aus
Tow backwards


On an A frame? How would that help?


Front wheels on the road, rears on the frame?
If you tow like this, first check that your steering locks straight ahead, or you will have a very interesting drive. scared
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#275456 - 18/05/15 10:51 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: Richard - Aus]
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Originally Posted By Richard - Aus
Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Richard - Aus
Tow backwards


On an A frame? How would that help?


Front wheels on the road, rears on the frame?


That's what I was thinking....

Then it would be called a "Suspended tow".
I used to have a suspended tow trailer when doing rally recovery. A flat tow, using an A-frame, all the towed vehicle's wheels are on the deck - used one once to bring a friend's daughter's expired car back from Bridgewater to Cheltenham. Got soaked as had to re-rig the thing in the pouring rain after a couple of miles.
Terminology chaps... smile
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#275458 - 18/05/15 10:58 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
All four on the floor with an A-frame Peter... smile


I thought the issue was that if you tow certain Mogs the gear box is trashed as the oil pump is driven by the input, not output side of the box. So towing on the rear wheels causes the box to turn without proper lubrication = trashed gear box.

A suspended tow with front wheels on the ground means no gear box damage. Perhaps.
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#275459 - 18/05/15 11:00 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: ATL]
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I think we are all mixing up, A frames with tow boys, where there is a lift of 2 wheels off the floor.


Edited by Ray (18/05/15 11:04 PM)
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#275475 - 19/05/15 06:34 AM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: ATL]
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Exactly, hence my comment. An A frame, as Graham pointed out, keeps all the wheels of the towed vehicle on the ground.
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#275623 - 19/05/15 06:31 PM Re: Flat Towing a Morgan on an A Frame [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
All four on the floor with an A-frame Peter... smile


I thought the issue was that if you tow certain Mogs the gear box is trashed as the oil pump is driven by the input, not output side of the box. So towing on the rear wheels causes the box to turn without proper lubrication = trashed gear box.

A suspended tow with front wheels on the ground means no gear box damage. Perhaps.


I was just pointing out an error in an earlier comment re: towing method...
(13.5 years approx. running a rally recovery unit, with a Tow Boy - see photo of 127" LR I have posted more than once... A year doing commercial recovery with various suspended tow vehicles in between other work...)

Your first paragraph is correct BTW...
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