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#244 - 08/09/06 11:40 AM
Morgan Aero 8 Vesions [Changes from 2000]
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The TM in Talk Morgan
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Morgan launched the Aero 8 in March of 2000 at the Geneva Motor Show. Version 1 - Complete with a bespoke aluminium chassis, all independent suspension and powered by a 4.4 litre MBW V8 engine producing 286 bhp at 5.500 rpm this was a radical departure from the traditionally build Morgans. Performance was 0 to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds with a top speed of 151 mph. Version 2 -Version 2 of the Aero 8 was launched at the 2004 Los Angeles Motor Show. Now using the latest BMW M62 V8 engine the price, inclusive of VAT, was 62,000 GBP. Further revisions included (but were not limited to): suspension improvements, a wider cockpit for more interior room (an increase of 6 inches in width), larger trunk and an optional removable hardtop. The new V8 provided, a 4.4-liter, 330 horsepower and a top speed of 160 mph with 0 to 60 mph acceleration in 4.8 seconds. Version 3 -Version 3 of the Morgan Aero 8 kept all of the engineering modifications of Version 2; however, also received the new front end treatment from the Morgan Aeromax coupe. The restyled front wings, lights and grill resolved the slight squint (inward facing lights) of the S1 and S2 versions. Version 4 - Version 4 of the Morgan Aero 8 has seen the 2nd new engine in the life of the vehicle; the BMW 4.4 V8 Valvetronic has been replaced with the BMW 4.8 V8 with 367bhp and 370 lb/ft of torque. This 13% power increase over the previous Aero gives the new Series 4 Aero 8 a power to weight ratio of 315bhp per tonne. A first for the Aero 8 also comes in the form of an optional automatic transmission; Morgan state: - "ZF’s latest 6 HP26 six speed gives even better performance than a manual gearbox due to its special lock up clutch, low power loss design and instant change characteristic. The automatic is useable either as a full automatic for more relaxed driving or in sport manual mode when the bespoke gear lever will hold the engine revs up to the maximum in each gear, increase change speed and ‘blip’ the throttle to smooth down changes." In addition to these technical changes, a repositioned fuel tank (to improve the weight distribution), revised instrumentation (from cream dials with blue numerals to black with white), an increase in luggage space, revised air vents, a move to a conventional handbrake leaver and air intakes and exits on the front wings distinguish the Series 4 Aero 8 from previous models.   (With thanks to SpeedMog for the Aero 8 4.8 photos)
Edited by TalkMorgan (19/05/08 11:10 AM) Edit Reason: Version / Series 4 information added
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#245 - 08/09/06 10:14 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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Lord Trois-Roues
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The Series I had a Getrag gearbox and 4-pot front brakes, whereas the Series II onwards has a ZF gearbox (smoother change) and 6-pot brakes. Also, the rear suspension has been changed in the Series II to reduce the amount of drive-line shunt.
The Series II is generally known at the 'works' as the Federalised Aero 8, as it was developed for the American market and some 21 cars were written off in crash-testing.
Cheers Brian
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#246 - 12/09/06 06:05 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Aeroman]
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Learner Plates Off!
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Hi brian I have been offered a used series 3 but I noticed when road testing that it had noticable chatter / slack from the gearbox, would this be the drive-line shunt you refer too and is there a fix or even partial fix for it.
thanks
Michael
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#247 - 12/09/06 08:22 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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Lord Trois-Roues
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Hi Michael,
I'm afraid it's a feature of the cars it's even mentioned in the handbook for the Series I (and I think the II), but as I am overseas I can't quote it to you. No doubt a Series I owner can give you chapter and verse.
For the Series II, they altered the way the diff was mounted and allowed some compliance into the system through the use of rubber bushes. Certainly, when I drive my car I do not notice it at all, but it may feel a bit dare I say it 'under-engineered' if you've come from a Porker.
However, for most of us it's just a design feature and part of the indelible character of the car. You'll quickly get used to it, so please don't let it put you off buying a great drive.
Happy Morganeering
Brian
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#248 - 13/09/06 05:10 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Aeroman]
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The guy I brought my Aero off (a Series 1) told me that this was something that BMW recommended to be done. Something to do with the Aero being much lighter than the normal Beemas they put the engine in.
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#250 - 09/10/06 07:08 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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Here's a link to some side by side comparison photo's of a Mk1 and 2 Mk2's showing side, front, rear and interior comparrisons.. Anyhow they were taken at Brooklands Morgan day whree Aeroman, Andy and myself met up in Windsor and convoyed down to be the only 3 Aero's amongst 60 classic's. http://rides.webshots.com/album/554654553sLUVRW
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#3794 - 21/04/07 04:36 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Boshly]
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Just Getting Started
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The series 1 could only fit one set of golf clubs in - im not a golfer but i understand sometimes you go with a friend and therefore 2 sets are required. simple as that
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#4202 - 05/05/07 11:45 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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Just Getting Started
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by the way officialy there is no such thing as series 3 - it is series 2 facelift. honest
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#4314 - 08/05/07 05:43 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Aeroman]
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Shakey Bin
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True, but the Series II was called the 'Federalised Car' in the works, not the Series II. That tag came later, after the market called them the Series II. Hey! What do you say to that Lovemog! Huh! I raise you two series II's and see your 'federalised mog' Now wot ya got BtG 
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#4318 - 08/05/07 06:04 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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Lord Trois-Roues
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I raise you two series II's and see your 'federalised mog' Now wot ya got BtG
and I'll see your Graphite wheels BtG 
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#4328 - 08/05/07 07:53 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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Just Getting Started
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shall we just call it series 3?? (have i just folded?)
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#23964 - 09/12/08 09:27 AM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Boshly]
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ususal question. Does anyone know the total Series 1s, Series 2s, Series 3s made?
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#29565 - 08/05/09 08:33 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Aeroman]
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Learner Plates Off!
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In the May copy of Octane Charles Morgan states "800" odd whilst on the Morgan web site says the figure is 650 Not as far apart these figures as you think Steve, 650+ Aero 8's to-date (or when the website was updated) and 100 AeroMax's by end-June or so, gives 750+. Maybe the now smallish difference is just due to Charles's penchant for rounding-up Judging by the chassis number for my Aero 8 and adding on the 100 Aeromax's I suspect 800 is pretty much spot on.
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#29583 - 09/05/09 08:29 AM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Jappo]
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I think that in fact you might be mistaken. 650 is quite a bit lower than my chassis number and my car was built middle of last year. That's before even considering AeroMax. To be honest it doesn't matter to me what the answer is as I was simply providing what I thought was some useful information based upon my chassis number to add to the debate.
Robert
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#29584 - 09/05/09 09:25 AM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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I think that in fact you might be mistaken. 650 is quite a bit lower than my chassis number and my car was built middle of last year. That's before even considering AeroMax. To be honest it doesn't matter to me what the answer is as I was simply providing what I thought was some useful information based upon my chassis number to add to the debate.
Robert I think that about 100 chassis numbers weren't actually issued. I haven't heard of an Aero with a chassis number from 500 through to 599.
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#29586 - 09/05/09 09:51 AM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
[Re: Simon]
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The Aeromaxs have a subdivision of the Morgan chassis numbers - this includes the word Aeromax and also clearly states the production number from 1-100.
I believe, iirc, the original idea was to cull a block of 100 numbers from the Aero 8 chassis number run to use for the Aeromaxs; however, they seem to have deviated from this idea with what I mentioned above.
I have to speak with the factory on Monday, so I'll ask the question. That makes sense.
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#29597 - 09/05/09 05:21 PM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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Lord Trois-Roues
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I think that in fact you might be mistaken. 650 is quite a bit lower than my chassis number and my car was built middle of last year. That's before even considering AeroMax. Can we bring this list of Aero chassis numbers up to date with the newest models purchased. As Shooter has said, I don't believe the 500-series of chassis numbers was used, and we certainly don't have a 5-series chassis on the TM list. 
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#29611 - 10/05/09 08:40 AM
Re: Aero 8 Versions [Changes from 2000]
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le Asbo du Bling
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Looks like this one may need an answer from the factory. Can we resolve this for Simon June issue of Octane states "Morgan expecting to build its 1000th example in the next few months." Marketing license I wonder? If it is the case it does mean that one version of the aero will be far rarer than the others. Not sure which though. 
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#35704 - 07/10/09 06:47 AM
Re: Morgan Aero 8 Vesions [Changes from 2000]
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 Dear friends, You may know already that the production of the Aero is or about to be stopped very soon. Does anybody know how many cars were produced ? Looking forward to reading you on that subject. Kindest regards JP
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#35772 - 08/10/09 06:54 AM
Re: Morgan Aero 8 Vesions [Changes from 2000]
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L - Learner Plates On
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Hello All
In the TM list there are also no Aeros in the 200s. Just coincidence?
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