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#244437 - 05/01/15 12:08 PM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: The Austrian]
TimG Offline
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Registered: 01/11/13
Posts: 1404
Loc: Aberdeenshire
Most of the time I wear a leather helmet & googles. In rain or a long winter journey a Caberg Trip full face helmet. In summer if it is really warm no helmet just goggles. I always use moulded ear plugs.

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#244466 - 05/01/15 02:05 PM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: The Austrian]
Michael H Offline
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Registered: 29/04/13
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Loc: Southern Vermont
Leather helmet, fur-lined leather helmet and open face helmet with popup visor where required by law or the track.

Wear a Greek fisherman's cap otherwise. I have a tendency for sunburn up top!

In Vermont, the M3W is a grey area.
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#244471 - 05/01/15 02:33 PM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: The Austrian]
Mi3Wheeler Offline

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Registered: 03/02/12
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Loc: Michigan, USA
I wear an open face quarter helmet that is leather covered; because I rather not sustain a closed head injury as the result of some asshat not seeing me, or not paying attention to the road and trying to photo/video me while driving. I have a nice full face helmet as well for cold and highway driving.

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#244561 - 05/01/15 07:01 PM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: Mi3Wheeler]
R1NGA Offline

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Registered: 06/03/13
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I don't wear a helmet unless the weather looks like it's going to be atrocious. Just goggles and either a wool flat-hat in anything over 5degC and dry, or one of those Barber fleece trapper hats that were mentioned a couple of months back and which now seem to be sold out....

So what happens if I drive my car into Austria or Italy with just my normal headgear - assume I'd be stopped by the Feds?

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#244579 - 05/01/15 07:44 PM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: The Austrian]
GLLOQ Offline

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Registered: 18/11/13
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I drive without a helmet and without a seat belt, only with a leather cap if the temperature is cool or a long distance to the noise.

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#244586 - 05/01/15 08:28 PM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: Jays]
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Registered: 11/05/14
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Originally Posted By Jays
You need one of these! woohoo



Not sure how a beard would help John hide apart from keeping the chin warm rofl
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#244607 - 05/01/15 10:09 PM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: R1NGA]
The Austrian Offline

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Registered: 17/10/14
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Loc: Austria, close to Vienna
Originally Posted By R1NGA
So what happens if I drive my car into Austria or Italy with just my normal headgear - assume I'd be stopped by the Feds?

In Austria I'm doing my testruns: I've been stopped twice so far: all they wanted was info on the M3W, no question regarding the helmet or the seat belt...
In case of an accident insurance companies will be more picky!
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#244629 - 06/01/15 12:30 AM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: R1NGA]
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Originally Posted By R1NGA
So what happens if I drive my car into Austria or Italy with just my normal headgear - assume I'd be stopped by the Feds?

A helmet is definitely required and it gets worse than that. Strictly speaking you have to have a motorcycle licence too, ridiculous though that may seem. There would however be some confusion because Italians who had a car licence up to about 15 years ago could ride a bike without having a specific bike licence. You could also probably get away with explainining that you are not required to have a bike licence for this type of vehicle in your home state and that under international agreements you only have to comply with your home state rules for licences to drive a vehicle registered in your home state whilst visiting another EU state.

I am not sure if that is entirely true for road vehicles but you would probably get away with it.

Recently the Swiss police have taken great delight in confiscating bikes of Italian riders who do not have an endorsement for bikes on their licences. The recomendation is that holders of the old paper licences get their licences updated to the new plastic type and request the motorcycle endorsement.
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#244636 - 06/01/15 06:56 AM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: The Austrian]
The Austrian Offline

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Registered: 17/10/14
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Loc: Austria, close to Vienna
Peter, thank you for your detailed comment on Italy and Suisse!
Bikers licence and helmet is no problem for me as I've got both but important to know for others!

The experience I had with Italian police was very positive so far but a friend of mine - lawyer in Milano - got his scooter confiscated when he rode without helmet.
Better to be careful....
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#244664 - 06/01/15 09:26 AM Re: Driving the M3W with a Helmet? [Re: The Austrian]
R1NGA Offline

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Registered: 06/03/13
Posts: 851
Loc: Guildford, UK
Thanks too for those explanations. I guess that makes sense, as for example a US chap visiting the UK and hiring a Harley would not be allowed to ride helmetless over here without being quickly busted at the roadside.....

I too have a full bike license as well and I may now stuff a compact helmet on the rack next time I go on a Euro tour (or maybe my future trip to M3W Treffen....)!


Edited by R1NGA (06/01/15 09:27 AM)

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