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Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it #244804
06/01/15 07:19 PM
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Evening Gentlemen

This is the first Winter of owning a Morgan and I am determined to get out in the car as much as possible over the winter on cold clear days.

With clear days proceeding clear nights and heavy frosts and enemy gritters out and about salting roads, what are the actual dangers of driving a Morgan on salty roads and what practical measures can I take after a drive to get it all off so it doesn't do any harm.

I have been out on lightly damp salty roads and have jet washed the car, top side, after the event but should I be doing something underneath as well?

I don't want to blast away the waxoil underbody protection

Any practical advice will be welcomed as I don't want to develop an irrational saltaphobia that keeps me off the road unnecessarily

Last edited by Eric Gill Sans; 06/01/15 07:25 PM.

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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Stewart S] #244806
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Hose underneath with plenty of fresh water. Try to get as much pressure as you feel safe with.


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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Stewart S] #244807
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If I go out in mine and the roads are salty or muddy I have a 2 foot piece of copper extension with a tap on it attached to my hosepipe and has a nozzle on it pointing upwards so that I can get in all the nooks and crannies. Takes a few minutes and it's all nice and clean.


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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Stewart S] #244808
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Probably the most important thing is to get it dry as soon as possible. A dehumidifier will do this overnight.

The main deterioration with winter use is the unprotected cross tubes and suspension components. The flat centre of the underside will stay remarkably clean, almost 'immaculate'. But the under-wing areas suffer badly - which is why its a good idea to protect them as well as you can.

I don't jet wash underneath, because there are too many nooks and crannies. Just keep a watchful eye on likely corrosion points, and take action if there's any deterioration. To be honest I don't jet wash the outside either. I prefer a sponge or mit with a bucket of water.

The black underseal now used by MMC is very good in protecting the underside.

I do jack up and clean the inside of the wheels though, with a rag and either WD40 or something similar through winter. And I also clean the exhaust while the car is lifted.


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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Roger-Cheshire] #244809
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Originally Posted By Roger-Cheshire
If I go out in mine and the roads are salty or muddy I have a 2 foot piece of copper extension with a tap on it attached to my hosepipe and has a nozzle on it pointing upwards so that I can get in all the nooks and crannies. Takes a few minutes and it's all nice and clean.


That sounds a very good solution Roger thumbs


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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: DaveW] #244811
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Originally Posted By DaveW
Probably the most important thing is to get it dry as soon as possible. A dehumidifier will do this overnight.

The main deterioration with winter use is the unprotected cross tubes and suspension components. The flat centre of the underside will stay remarkably clean, almost 'immaculate'. But the under-wing areas suffer badly - which is why its a good idea to protect them as well as you can.

I don't jet wash underneath, because there are too many nooks and crannies. Just keep a watchful eye on likely corrosion points, and take action if there's any deterioration. To be honest I don't jet wash the outside either. I prefer a sponge or mit with a bucket of water.

The black underseal now used by MMC is very good in protecting the underside.

I do jack up and clean the inside of the wheels though, with a rag and either WD40 or something similar through winter. And I also clean the exhaust while the car is lifted.


Thanks Dave
How should I treat or clean the under wing areas?


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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Stewart S] #244814
06/01/15 07:45 PM
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When does a cherished number become a vanity plate , and vice versa?

My own MOG 615 has been with me on 3 Morgans since 1970. I regard it as cherished number rather than a cherished number.

BTW my initial posting on Talk Morgan stating that I did not know the whereabouts of my first +4 , has turned up that it is now owned by Sid Madrid. That is really good to know that it still is around and is giving pleasure to a new owner.



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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Stewart S] #244816
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Crikey Andy, I love a good ole thread drift but....... laugh2


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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Stewart S] #244817
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In particular check the rear wing trailing edges regularly, otherwise you'll get this:


This is what I mean about the centre of the underside - I didn't even clean the centre before taking this photo, but the join between the wing and body needed cleaning and re-undersealing. This was soon after I bought Mr Bumble. It isn't quite as clean now!


I would rather go under with a rag and some white spirit than wet it in winter. It shouldn't get too bad, just lift it occasionally and look with an inspection lamp. If it's well undersealed it will be fine, but keep the beading between wing & body treated with your preferred anti rust liquid.


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Re: Dangers of salt on the roads & what to do about it [Re: Stewart S] #244819
06/01/15 08:00 PM
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Davew:

"The black underseal now used by MMC is very good in protecting the underside"

Is it overkill to have the underside waxoiled as well as the new underseal or is it sensible belt and braces?

Stewart:

I had my last Mog rewaxoiled after I was a little (alot) too eager with the jet washer, don't know whether I did any damage but better safe than sorry.


Stuart

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