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Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: Peter J] #264217
02/04/15 05:55 PM
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Peter J Offline OP
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Me, worry?
No way.
To be honest I would prefer not to use the locking plug, but it is needed to seal the fuel tank as it is not supposed to be able to vent....

Actually I'd prefer a 2" filler pipe straight into the tank, filling the car takes far, far too long.


Peter,
Tarka the 'Otter Mog
2014 Plus 8


Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: Peter J] #264309
02/04/15 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Peter J
filling the car takes far, far too long.

Emptying it doesn't.


Best Regards
Lang may yer lum reek
Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: BobtheTrain] #264408
03/04/15 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By BobtheTrain
Originally Posted By Peter J
filling the car takes far, far too long.

Emptying it doesn't.

rofl rofl
Excellent! thumbs


Graham (G4FUJ)

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Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: Peter J] #264934
04/04/15 03:49 PM
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Peter. If you like I can send you contact details for someone at Newton Equipment. I had no problem getting a spare locking cap from them. I kept the original and made my modifications to the spare (just in case I stuffed it up).

With well over 1,000 cars a year being built Morgan should have matched ignition/fuel locks and even door locks should not be out of the question. Moto Guzzi manages to do it with matched ignition (with immobiliser), fuel, seat, and bag locks on the Norge and Breva and I doubt their production is more than 3,000 a year on those models. When the bags were purchased at a later date (not with the original order) I used to regularly modify the locks to match the bikes ignition key.

There are two problems with modifying the Newton fuel cap to match the Morgan ignition key: firstly the keyway needs to be opened up slightly to match the very similar keyway of the ignition lock, and secondly the ignition key is too long for the fuel cap and care needs to be taken that the action of the fuel cap is not too stiff which would result in a twisted ignition key. Other than that moving, and or modifying, the wafers is fairly routine.


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Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: Peter J] #264936
04/04/15 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Peter J
Me, worry?
No way.
To be honest I would prefer not to use the locking plug, but it is needed to seal the fuel tank as it is not supposed to be able to vent....

Actually I'd prefer a 2" filler pipe straight into the tank, filling the car takes far, far too long.


Peter in Jersey last year I couldn't work out what was banging on my knee whilst driving. It turned I had just closed the Monza cap and the locking plug was still on the key ring. I had done around 10 miles with no issue.


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Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: Gambalunga] #264968
04/04/15 05:40 PM
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Peter J Offline OP
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Originally Posted By Gambalunga
Peter. If you like I can send you contact details for someone at Newton Equipment.


Peter,

please, that would be great.

I'm not going ot be able to adapt the filler cap key to use my ignition key as it is a standard BMW key, nothing like the one for the Roadster. It even has BMW moulded into the fob...!


Peter,
Tarka the 'Otter Mog
2014 Plus 8


Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: Peter J] #265751
07/04/15 01:02 PM
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Hmmmmm...... a Plus8 owner has discovered the caps all use the same key......
Possibly a Plus8 with huge mpg claims soon?
Only kidding!
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Re: Fuel Filler Cap Security [Re: sospan] #266301
10/04/15 01:46 PM
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Peter J Offline OP
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Originally Posted By sospan
Hmmmmm...... a Plus8 owner has discovered the caps all use the same key......
Possibly a Plus8 with huge mpg claims soon?
Only kidding!
hide


I need all the free fuel I can get!


Peter,
Tarka the 'Otter Mog
2014 Plus 8


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