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Did you know that...... #298774
22/08/15 03:46 AM
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Morgan upgraded the clutch for 2014 models and newer? I had the misfortune to need engine removal work on my Morgan and was told that the clutch needed replacing. The pressure plate and flywheel showed burn marks but I never ride the clutch. After getting the car back, I commented that the clutch seemed really stiff. The mechanic said that starting in 2014, Morgan added about 40% stronger clutch springs to the pressure plate. If you get a chance, sit in a 2011/13 car and press on the clutch, then try the same in a 2014/15 car. Was anyone aware of this?

Re: Did you know that...... [Re: rolsmith] #298781
22/08/15 06:01 AM
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My 2015 build car clutch reminds me of an old Fordson Major tractor I used to drive in school holidays!

My left leg muscles are getting a good workout.

I don't mind at all and if it means the clutch will last longer then its a good thing.


M3W 'The Mapmog' Built June 2015



Re: Did you know that...... [Re: rolsmith] #298794
22/08/15 07:59 AM
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Mine was replaced when them changed chassis at the factory last month.
For me it seems to be good.

Re: Did you know that...... [Re: rolsmith] #298801
22/08/15 08:21 AM
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Am not really surprised by this upgrade.

The clutch is taking soooo much stress from the mighty S&S.

My 2012 car on one or two,occasions had a burning clutch smell.

And I was always very careful not to ride the clutch pedal.

Last edited by 4/4Boy; 22/08/15 08:28 AM.

Neil

Re: Did you know that...... [Re: rolsmith] #298806
22/08/15 08:30 AM
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So do i
A little clutch smell Time to Time when i ve the heavy foot.
But think it was damaged when the chassis broken.

Re: Did you know that...... [Re: rolsmith] #298858
22/08/15 01:02 PM
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Yes clutch on my new +4 is stronger yah no my 4/4 but not a direct comparison. You soon get used to it though!


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Re: Did you know that...... [Re: rolsmith] #298870
22/08/15 02:51 PM
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Are we talking 3 or 4 wheelers here? 'May be an idea to put it in the subject line?


1969 4/4
1995 plus 8
2002 Aero S1
2013 M3W
2014 Plus 8
Re: Did you know that...... [Re: Taffmog] #298885
22/08/15 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Taffmog
Are we talking 3 or 4 wheelers here? 'May be an idea to put it in the subject line?


Well, it is in the M3W forum, so that might be a clue..... innocent


Giles. Mogless in Paris.
Re: Did you know that...... [Re: atalante83] #298900
22/08/15 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By atalante83
Mine was replaced when them changed chassis at the factory last month.
For me it seems to be good.

Originally Posted By atalante83
So do i
A little clutch smell Time to Time when i ve the heavy foot.
But think it was damaged when the chassis broken.


Itís only very good luck. With your frame breakage, you have clearly escaped to a bad accident, injuries and even a fatal issue. You are among the happy few that have had a return to the factory for a brand new frame. You have received at the same time all the latest upgrades you ask for.

Alas, most of you as me haven't benefit from that extra care. They have had to pay for all the improvements after a long wait for part supply. Most of us have even never received the letter promised by Mark Evans nor have they received any notice from their dealer. They will have to accept at last the bolt on strengthening which doesnít cure in any way the fatigue already suffered by the frame tubes.

Thanks to the solidarity and information on this forum, Iím clearly informed.

Mine from the start was a real mess. Return to the factory the day of its first delivery, for repair. I have to wait a month to have it back. After a few miles the compensator failed, new return to the factory. It has been of the road for almost half the time. And for what remains, it has mainly been used to travel to the garage for repairs.

Iím by now again in trouble. A short circuit due to a badly isolated wire has damaged the management of the engine. Repair expected in September. I say expected because I fear that I'll have to struggle again with the factory for parts supply. I'll tell you the result.


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Re: Did you know that...... [Re: rolsmith] #299043
23/08/15 07:40 AM
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MTWV2 I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience. I've had good & bad service from Morgan. It took them over 2 weeks to authorise replacement headlamp & repaint front wings. I called customer service & Ross told me to tell my dealer to resubmit the details in DSC format. It was quickly authorised then. I still dont know if they expect me to pay 1/2 rear sprocket parts cost.

One of the mechanics told me that US customers needing a new chassis have to get a certificate of destruction for their M3W & Morgan will send them a brand new car as its to costly to return them to the factory. Surely it cannot cost over £30000 to ship a car both ways across the Atlantic. Anyone heard this?

Tim.

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