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Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: DurhamDavid] #326614
17/12/15 07:12 PM
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Thanks everyone for the photos and links they were very helpful in helping me understand the gearbox arrangement in my car. When I started I assumed the MT75 solution offered by most suppliers was for once a quick and cheap upgrade. Must drink less.

Cheers

David


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Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: DurhamDavid] #326618
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Just a note: Thanks Cain for the MT75 link.
David; I fitted the Librands sports shift for the Zetec 4/4 (MT75)last year and am very happy I did so.

David 2001 4/4 4 seater. Avus Blue.

Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: Georgie] #326627
17/12/15 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Georgie
Just a note: Thanks Cain for the MT75 link.
David; I fitted the Librands sports shift for the Zetec 4/4 (MT75)last year and am very happy I did so.

David 2001 4/4 4 seater. Avus Blue.


Hi Dave

My MT75 does not have Sliding sleeve for reverse and Librands Sport Gear shift will defiantly not fit.

I take it your MT75 does have a sliding sleeve reverse?






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Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: DurhamDavid] #326822
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Hi Cain,

Yes my gear lever does have a sliding sleeve to select reverse. However after Christmas I intend to get under the car and have a good look at the box and linkages to check condition and type.

This whole process has intrigued me over what I thought was a standard component - the MT75 box. I assumed with minor variations all such coded gearboxes were the same. No - there are 2 and 4 wheel drive versions, different gear ratios depending on the car, different gear lever arrangements and from your comment even different reverse selection methods. I am pleased to say though that I have learned a great deal.

Thanks again for your advice.


David


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Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: DurhamDavid] #326900
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David,
The key to this "quick shift" issue may well be in what engine is fitted. The Zetec engine cars could use a Sierra MT75 box (with it's gear shift linkage and integarel bell housing). Where as the Duratec engined cars use the "after market" (see my earlier post) gearbox because of the need to use a different bell housing. The link posted by Cain shows a box with a removable BH and perhaps a Morgan gear linkage.
A Zetec car could therefore use a Sierra quick shift kit.
My Duratec car does not have the slider for reverse lockout.
Cheers
John

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Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: Cain] #327105
20/12/15 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Cain
[quote=Georgie]Just a note: Thanks Cain for the MT75 link.
David; I fitted the Librands sports shift for the Zetec 4/4 (MT75)last year and am very happy I did so.

David 2001 4/4 4 seater. Avus Blue.
Originally Posted By Cain
Hi Dave

Here you go this should help as there are many MT75 gear box variants.

http://www.super7thheaven.co.uk/components/mt75-gearbox/

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/174961/Gearbox_Oil_Fill_Plug

Our MT75 has remote the gearshift but it is Morgan only.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/jaystride/Cars/P1010475.jpg


Librands do not Manufacture a quick dermot for the MT75.

The Ebay links for Cosworth will not fit the Morgan MT75 Gearbox variant.



Hi Caine, yes my 2000 Zetec silvertop with the MT75 does have the sliding sleeve for reverse.

The original gear shift was exactly the same as the schematic in your attached super7heaven MT75 repair manual under: Gear Shift.

David,

Last edited by Georgie; 20/12/15 05:26 PM.
Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: DurhamDavid] #556623
29/01/19 07:31 PM
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I was interested in this thread as I am keen to stop wrapping my knuckles with every gear change! Can anyone categorically say what gearbox is attached to my 1994 Morgan 4/4 which has a 1.8 Zetec engine fitted and a gear stick with a reverse detent sleeve fitted. Reading this thread I am thinking it is a Ford MT75 box and so the Librands short leaver shifter will be the answer? I am open to any other thoughts and opinions if somebody is able to guide me please.....

Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: DurhamDavid] #627515
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Hi

Did you fit a Librands quick shift to your Zetec.

I’d be interested to know how easy this is and if the reverse sleeve / collar still works once fitted.

Thx

Re: Quickshift gear lever (1995 4/4) [Re: DurhamDavid] #636500
10/05/20 12:48 PM
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Hi Chris, Yes I did fit this and I am very happy with the outcome. Massively better driving experience. No problems with the reverse sleeve if you follow the instructions and fit it as described. I would say that it was not the most straight forward exercise. I am reasonably skilled but needed to introduce a mechanic to get me out of trouble. There was some very fiddly drilling to locate a grub screw which I needed some help with! That said absolutely glad I did it.

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