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#33064 - 06/08/09 06:51 PM Huh? What's this then?
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#33066 - 06/08/09 07:36 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: spudgun]
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J-L in an initial concept?
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#33069 - 06/08/09 08:31 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: cerealsurfer]
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a frensj Aeromax-owner who wanted the same bud for his aero
not known wether this was done at factory

(sorry fortyping, drunk to much on terras tonight)
(future-W not at home, at sisters: yahoo cheers)
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#33070 - 06/08/09 08:33 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: 1560]
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terras walking-distance viking , no drink an drive, just fell over my dog taking over missis job of weening redcard late/alco-smell
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#33074 - 06/08/09 09:09 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: 1560]
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Good spot Spudgun... I have no idea what that is thinking

As for you 1560, you're in the running for best drunken post... currently Yuri holds the record for classic vodka-fuelled comments. woohoo
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#33077 - 06/08/09 09:58 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: spudgun]
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looks good doesn't it? I 'd go as far as saying I like it more than the supersport targa . thinking

I'd like to find out more. thumbswaiting

dmat

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#33090 - 07/08/09 07:00 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: dmat]
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That came in under radar.

So we have an S4 front end and tank filler with AeroMax rear lights and a totally custom tail. It is on French plates and we don't get to see the face which is a pity as we could set interpol on them.

(IMHO) Not certain the V on the boot is perfectly resolved into the shape but I would have to say they have done a stunning job if this is a local bodywork company putting together a one off. They deserve congratulations for well executed work. I am certain a lot worse has come from Morgans own Mr DesignerMan notworthy pencil during creative scribbling practice.

Great spot spudgun.

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#33091 - 07/08/09 07:25 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: dmat]
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Originally Posted By: dmat
looks good doesn't it? I'd go as far as saying I like it more than the supersport targa . thinking

dmat


You can NOT be serious dmat! scared

I think it is a complete abortion. somestick

Just my 2p-worth...

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#33092 - 07/08/09 07:58 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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I've seen this car at Morgan France garage, 2 months ago.

It's owner wanted a bespoke rear end "à la aeromax".

As far as I know, it was not made at the factory.





H3




Edited by h trois (07/08/09 08:01 AM)
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#33093 - 07/08/09 08:06 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: h trois]
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looks quite cool. would be great to see it in the flesh - i wonder if the new Vs. old look works?
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#33117 - 07/08/09 03:13 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Young-one]
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im quite a fan. smile

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#33147 - 07/08/09 08:59 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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Originally Posted By: Aeroman
Originally Posted By: dmat
looks good doesn't it? I'd go as far as saying I like it more than the supersport targa . thinking

dmat


You can NOT be serious dmat! scared

I think it is a complete abortion. somestick

Just my 2p-worth...

smile



deadly srious grin2

not all that keen on the picture up on the ramp, but the first pic looks brill.

dmat

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#33154 - 07/08/09 10:09 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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Originally Posted By: Aeroman
Originally Posted By: dmat
looks good doesn't it? I'd go as far as saying I like it more than the supersport targa . thinking

dmat


You can NOT be serious dmat! scared

I think it is a complete abortion. somestick

Just my 2p-worth...

smile



Agree totally. sos
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#33155 - 08/08/09 05:32 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: dmat]
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Originally Posted By: dmat
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not all that keen on the picture up on the ramp, but the first pic looks brill.

dmat



Furthermore, when I took this spy picts, with the authorization of Morgan France, the trunk was slightly open, there's no wheel and the light in the garage was terrible.

My problem with this aero is not its customized trunk but its color: Baby garment light blue, it's not what I prefer for this car.

3 more picts:










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#33159 - 08/08/09 09:09 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: h trois]
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I think it looked great love
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#33160 - 08/08/09 09:12 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: h trois]
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Agree with H3 regarding that awful powder blue colour scheme ooo

All IMO of course...
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#33162 - 08/08/09 10:09 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: kin]
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Not keen on the body panel gaps between the trunk and the wing - doesn't look right to me. Still nice idea an all that, and I'm probably just jealous I don't have the time / money to realise all those 'what it' schemes I have..
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#33203 - 09/08/09 07:27 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: mr_tony]
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Hello all

This car was owned by a French friend of mine who bought the Aeromax wings intending to modify the car but then with an Aeromax on order decided to sell the car. The new owner wanted it with the new wings installed so my friend had the work done mainly at his facility. A huge amount of manhours went into the final product.

Regarding the colour there is a great saying in France that you can't argue about taste and colour. As a yellow fan it wouldn't be my choice of colour either but what I have noticed about this baby blue is that sunlight transforms the look of the car.

Those of you at the Centenary or who visited the factory prior to the Cheltenham weekend may have notice the baby blue Aeromax. When I first saw the car on the Tuesday in the delivery area it looked somewhat insipid. However on the Friday morning of the Cheltenham weekend I was lucky enough to take delivery of this Aeromax on behalf of my friend and once outside in the sunshine the car looked fantastic.

A 200km scenic run to Bath via Wales in the car gave me & SWSBO the opportunity to enjoy this beautiful car, particularly the fantastic sound produced by those sidepipes laugh2

Cheers
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#33204 - 09/08/09 07:43 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Philippo]
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Thank you for these additionnal & important infos about what we could call the "blue8max", Phil l'Hippo.

H3
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#33220 - 09/08/09 10:25 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Young-one]
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I've decided that I like it! Not the colour but the concept of fitting the max rear end.

Anyone with photoshop skills to colour it the liquid mercury silver to see how it looks?

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#33236 - 09/08/09 03:23 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Shooter]
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I like the colour, needs black wheels; Iove the Aeromax wings and Lancia lights love but don't at all like the V/SS boot on it. I think with a plain/Aero boot and those wings it's a great 'hommage' to the convertible 'Max I would love. The SS has more other features to mark it out.

Would love to know how much it would cost innocent
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#33251 - 09/08/09 07:52 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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Originally Posted By: Aeroman
Originally Posted By: dmat
looks good doesn't it? I'd go as far as saying I like it more than the supersport targa . thinking

dmat


You can NOT be serious dmat! scared

I think it is a complete abortion. somestick

Just my 2p-worth...

smile



seems i'm not alone grouphug

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#33255 - 09/08/09 07:57 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: dmat]
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Originally Posted By: dmat
Originally Posted By: Aeroman
Originally Posted By: dmat
looks good doesn't it? I'd go as far as saying I like it more than the supersport targa . thinking

dmat

You can NOT be serious dmat! scared

I think it is a complete abortion. somestick

Just my 2p-worth...

smile



seems i'm not alone grouphug

dmat


It could be just the vocal minority somestick


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#33258 - 09/08/09 08:11 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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I'm not 100% sure about this. hide

After seeing the aeromax I thought the same finish would improve the tail end of the aero but I think the big v of the boot leaves it a little flat and needing a little extra to break up the surface.

Maybe we will see a Series 5 aero after all thinking
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#33259 - 09/08/09 08:13 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: asbojohn]
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Have they not run out of engines to make aero's after the run of Super Sports?

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#33263 - 09/08/09 08:43 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: asbojohn]
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After seeing the aeromax I thought the same finish would improve the tail end of the aero but I think the big v of the boot leaves it a little flat and needing a little extra to break up the surface.

Maybe we will see a Series 5 aero after all thinking


I think it's the difference between a talented professional designer (Matt Humphries)- the AeroMax is after all an iconic design, and an enthusiastic amateur - the powder blue car.

Personally, I don't think the Aero SuperSport is as lasting or pure a design statement as the AeroMax, basically as it is a variation on a theme and thus, it is hard to better the original design of the 'Max - just perfect proportions and detailing imho.

But Supersport versus powder blue car is a no-brainer for me, in actual fact I prefer the shape of the normal Aero 8 to this hacked about one. It obviously pleases some people though, and that's what makes life interesting. tumbleweed

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#33270 - 10/08/09 06:31 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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I agree that it is not as balanced as an original Aero, the curves of the Aero mean that a downward flowing boot is a better match to my eyes. It continues the visual flow of the car from the side view.

The more round Lancia rear lamp assembly means it has a flat boot top and curved rear. On the Max this naturally flows from the roof design and maintains the visual line.

On this car I feel it makes the backend looks a little like an AC Cobra from the side view which is not as well integrated. The flow comes from the running boards as much as the cockpit/deck line and this is where it is slightly less resolved for me personally. Then again I would never claim my personal taste is better than whoever was bold enough to do this work.

I do think they have done a remarkable job in terms of the quality involved. I applaud their desire to make this one-off after all Morgan is about the hand-built aspect of a car. I like the idea that Morgan have re-bodied the Aero chassis like Hooper used to do for Bentley all those years ago. It is nicer to be aligned with a skill like that than the niche busting weird world of current mass market brands.

I have seen a lot worse home-grown projects in other brands. The Rolls-Royce estates from Dubai that were sold a few years back and even some of Porsches own 80's flat nose cars stand out as bad examples for me.

The question is what comes next from the chief pencil sharpener ?

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#33309 - 10/08/09 03:25 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Alistair]
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The only thing Matt did tell me at the centenary do was that we'd have to wait and see. Thats not to say that they aren't working on something - I'm sure they will be, but I guess it's just a case of selling and producing one model at a time for the company.

I did plead (pretty please) for a GT3 race car version limited edition, and for a full convertible where the roof folds completely flush (as per the S1).

What I do know is that the engine supply booked with BMW covers only the supersports. After that it will be a different engine, so the question is - will it be the twin turbo V8 from the M6? I told matt that is what I would want. He just said I was clearly mental...
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#33390 - 12/08/09 07:26 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: mr_tony]
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When I looked at the pictures it reminded me of a Stutz Blackhawk circa 1973-1976. While the back works great on the fastback aeromax and targa ss it only makes me realize how cool and great looking series 1 & 2 cars were. If Morgan goes this route, I am thinking values go up earlier series cars.

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#33391 - 12/08/09 07:53 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: mmm]
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I applaud the owner of the 'Gulf Blue' Aero 8 for having the conviction to alter his Morgan to suit his taste. We could spend hours debating his design; however, if it is perfect to his eyes, that is good enough for me. I believe there is a clear distinction between a production car (which should appeal to the masses and therefore necessitates debate) and a one off, bespoke, creation. wine

I personally - and with obvious bias - view the Aeromax as a very special design. Perhaps it is the novelty of a fixed head Morgan? Whatever the reason, the design works for me from every angle, (front on is my least favourite - as it is with all Aeros), side being my favourite. There are few cars that I could stare at for hours, the Aeromax is one of them.

The SuperSports does not have that same lure for me. Is it a nice car? Absolutely! Does it enchant me like the Aeromax? No. I view it as a progression of the Aero 8 design; while this isn't a negative, perhaps this is the reason I view it as being less special than the Aeromax?
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#33396 - 12/08/09 09:09 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Simon]
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Have just seen pictures of Jim Randle's design for the Aero 8. Wow!

Also note that the same chassis would have fitted the +8. Rather a shame that neither made it to production.

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#33398 - 12/08/09 09:52 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Paul Hurst]
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Where's the linky Paul? coffee
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#33406 - 12/08/09 10:33 AM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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Details were in a book I've just bought, one of the 'Haynes Great Car Series - Morgan Plus 8'

Book also had a section on the Aeros...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Morgan-Haynes-ce...7126&sr=8-1


Car looks very Jag like; I would have been torn between either new design or revised +8. Probably good that I've been spared the angst of choosing!


Edited by Paul Hurst (12/08/09 10:35 AM)

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#33419 - 12/08/09 02:00 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Paul Hurst]
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Originally Posted By: Paul Hurst
Details were in a book I've just bought, one of the 'Haynes Great Car Series - Morgan Plus 8'

Book also had a section on the Aeros...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Morgan-Haynes-ce...7126&sr=8-1


Bought a number of Mog books recently, including this one, but am reading them in a different order. frown I've left this book in the UK, so will have to wait until in am back on the 23rd - briefly (!) to pick it up. grin2

Did I read that you are thinking of maybe swapping your Plus 4 for a Plus 8 - you really can't beat the sound of that V8 and the wall of torque is brill too. thumbs flag
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#33423 - 12/08/09 03:08 PM Re: Huh? What's this then? [Re: Aeroman]
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Did I read that you are thinking of maybe swapping your Plus 4 for a Plus 8 - you really can't beat the sound of that V8 and the wall of torque is brill too. thumbs flag


Damn! Rumbled!

Plus 4 was 'safe' option into Morgan ownership; knew I could afford to keep it in fuel, insured and maintained and that it was a good all-round balance as a daily driver on rural roads. Whatever else happens, have a car that will see me through to the end of my motoring days.

Should Librands develop a revised suspension however, and current business options prove fruitful, would happily consider taking on the extra expense of running an upgraded V8.

And yes, the idea of both rumble and torque are both rather alluring! It would be the V8, rather than a V6. Hence the book.

Will, as always, do my ‘due diligence’, and wait for any reviews with baited breath. And keep working away in the meantime! Anyway, it’s nice to have a dream…

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