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#39163 - 05/01/10 09:21 AM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: Frank 4x4]
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Hey Frank, I just look, then think. I don't like to see ungrommeted holes, and the Mog is riddled with (mainly) holes with overlarge grommets and therefore overlarge holes remaining. Many of mine are now double grommeted (grommet within grommet) to fill those gaps. I keep loads of spares on the shelf as I don't like running out of stuff mid job. The starter caps are each made from two grommets cut, shaped and superglued together. My best scrap boxes though are the metals, and the neoprene. grin2

I've still got a couple if fixes to do on the offside engine bay but this bad weather is getting in the way....... snow
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#39570 - 11/01/10 07:36 PM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: DaveW]
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Slow progress on this due to snow snow snow
But I snatched an hour or so over the weekend.

Next on my list was the clutch master cylinder. Although it's not close to the manifold, there's no harm in adding some protection from the radiated heat. This is much more relevant to the Plus 8 where the manifold is closer.
My requirement was for a push fit guard. thinking

First a brown paper template......


Then using an offcut of aluminium sheet.......covered in Agriemach 'reflect a cool' - with an extra layer of woven insulating mat on the forward facing edge. Curving the aluminium is a bit time consuming. Once completed it's drilled and secured with two stainless allen bolts & locknuts.
The slot allows it to 'slot over' the bracket......
Fitting was trial & error in the usual way and it just fits through the gap above the steering column.




Slotted over.......






One final job to do in this section but this must wait a bit longer. grin2
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#39772 - 16/01/10 04:13 PM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: DaveW]
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Right then. Today was a balmy 10degrees C in the garage after I had the heater on. sunny
So I could get on with the remaining jobs.

First a small diversion.........
Those red & green wires are untidy. It's where there is a join in the loom and usually such joins are left visible, but not quite as visible as this.


Here's a much closer look..........

Four cable ties?????? ooo
I reckon that may be the way this is made..........

But I can do a bit better. Cutting cable ties is fiddly but I have the perfect tool. A Xuron track cutter. This tool is sold to cut model railway track, but is perfect for cable ties, having a very precise cutting blade, so no damage to the surroundings.


Then I used some loom tape, (which is not self adhesive) to bind the loom and make it a bit tidier. The convention seems to be to leave the join visible, so that's what I did. The end of the tape is secured with a tiny blob of superglue.


So, back to the final piece of insulation. I was planning on making a starter motor shield in the style of the one sold by Agriemach. This would have looked like a tube with a covered end. But looking underneath, not only is access tricky, but a cable comes off the solenoid in the forward direction, so the closed tube plan is difficult. In the end I settled on a simple 'blanket' fix, which means that the air can still get to the lower half, which might actually be a better idea.

So first the brown paper template:


This is 'before'.......


Then with the cut piece of insulation fitted - held with a cable tie.........


Underneath........


And from the front, which also shows the rubber covers I recently fitted to the starter terminals.


So as far as the underbonnet goes, that's all for now. thumbs
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#39846 - 19/01/10 04:29 PM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: DaveW]
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That clutch master cylinder heat shield looks like it could use a circle of U-section neoprene around the top edge, to finish it off, Dave... innocent

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#39858 - 19/01/10 06:59 PM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: nputtick]
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I wouldn't rule that out Nigel.....

Especially if the foil comes unstuck.... grin2
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#39869 - 20/01/10 10:22 AM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: DaveW]
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Dave

Thanks for some easy stuff to copy, although I haven't time lately to get my insulation sorted, going skiing on Saturday so it's more mountaineering than morganeering.
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#41332 - 05/03/10 07:05 PM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: lightsphere]
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I was back on the heat management trail today. But first the three electric connectors which on the Series1 Roadster are, at least, fixed to the front of the offside cam cover. But with the wires sloping down into the connectors, if any water gets on the wires...........it will run into the connectors.
Here it is as standard............


I've considered all sorts of fixes involving stainless steel and neoprene, but its a bit of a stumper. So for now I've fashioned a piece of high density neoprene just to act as a deflector. I've also added a bit more loom tape to tidy those wires up. It makes quite a difference.


Next is the top hose and stainless pipe which runs down the centre of the "Vee". This pipe is very close to the 'distributor/coil pack'. Electronics don't like heat, so I've made a simple shield from aluminium, and covered it in my favoured foil.



This next photo is taken with the air filter removed, and the foil looks a bit messy, but the curve is there to accommodate the air filter. Note how close the tube is to the HT leads.


I'll cover the air filter next on a separate post. thumbs
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#41836 - 21/03/10 06:58 PM Re: Traditionals - next step - underbonnet insulation [Re: DaveW]
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I managed a bit of fine tuning over the weekend, but not really much time. I wanted to replace the 3 nuts each side between manifold and catalyst, so that I could apply a bit of Coppaslip. This is as a precaution for future removal, because these manifold nuts can be really tricky to get off after few years. I resisted using stainless nuts because these can semi weld themselves to the studs when really hot, so I stuck with plated nuts, and new washers and lockwashers. The nearside is easy with good access. Even so these nuts take a bit of starting and are stiff to get off.


Offside is much harder to access. The top one is OK, but the forward nut must be accessed from below, and the alternator gets in the way. The rearward nut is blocked by the master cylinder heat shield. Initially I tought this couldn't be removed without disconnecting the rear brake pipe on the m/cyl, but with a bit of jiggery pockery it can be done. The upper fixing is an 8mm nut on a crosshead setscrew through the inner wing. The lower fixing on the m/cyl is a 13mm nut. Once released the heat shield can be manipulated through the gap around the steering column, but it's tight. Only then can you get a spanner on that manifoild nut.


And here's the job done......


One more thing. The fuel pipes rise vertically against the bulkhead in the rear offside corner. In doing so they pass the bulkhead flange which is an edge of stainless steel. Mine were touching, so I've inserted a neoprene U channel as protection. It's just visible here:

The pipes are tight, but we don't want any chafing do we?
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Next on the list is to add some heat protection to the fuel pipes under the offside running board, but that means the exhaust will have to come off again on that side, so I need more time.......
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