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#40358 - 03/02/10 08:58 PM Re: New owner - S3 queries [Re: orthodoc]
wiscos Offline
New to Talk Morgan

Registered: 26/11/07
Posts: 7
Pleased to be of some help, and want to re-state my love / admiration / absolutely huge enjoyment of the car... Mine's not a million miles different in looks from yours - Stingray Grey with black leather/roof but normal chrome wheels. I think for most people the car looks wonderful without needing wild paint colours (although I do love the wild machines too). Mine was built in Jan/Feb 2007 but I bought it 'new' in August 2007 although it was a low mileage (140 miles) trade plates demonstrator.

I know this will not work for all S4 owners, but I've driven S3 vs S4 and the automatic and...

1. S4 engine has a slightly smoother sound at tickover (tiny difference) but feels very similar on the move. Possibly the suspension has a bit more initial compliance without extra roll but hard to say for sure. All later cars feel more special with side windows down as well as the top, and this may be the only real aural difference, because the demonstrator was driven this way, and I drive mine like this more now.

2. I preferred the storage behind the seats in the S3 and the speaker location pointing forward is better. The S3 car feels more airy with greater legroom.

3. The S4 boot is a bit bigger but you lose as much as you gain and the cockpit is more cramped. The air vents in the S4 are much neater but that doesn't bother me at all.

4. The handbrake on the S3 is the end of a long line and I prefer it although I can't make the car stay still on a steep hill! We also have the last of the old logos and they are consistent (not so on some S4s).

5. The fuel filler on the S4 is neat but the central chrome filler is fun on the S3 (although mine is still sometimes a very slow piggy to fill).

6. The extra hot air engine venting on the S4 looks great and is probably a good idea - my S3 gets quite warm in these areas.

7. Perceived performance is extremely similar and the cars essentially drive the same. I'm not suggesting that an S4 is not faster but I really couldn't feel it and I wanted to - I was set on a trade 'up' - but after the test drive I simply could not tell the difference. Both are extremely fast cars!

8. The auto is great and I loved the way it changed at 6700rpm, but for some reason I think a manual gearbox suits the car and for me it was swings and roundabouts.

9. I'm sure an S4 auto is faster for most people most of the time but if you want to go round tracks fast you're probably better off with a Porsche GT3. Otherwise you'll never really tell unless you're a great driver on a straight track.

10. I'm sorry the Aero 8 is no more (at least in <£100K form) and I'm sure a new derivative with a more fuel efficient engine but great dynamics will emerge - truly hope so! Good luck to Morgan and all who have an interest in individuality.

11. Wrong thread and I will try to add to the right place, but I also had the steam in the cockpit issue from the aircon and some of the responses were clearly not helpful or correct. After a long drive in damp and cold conditions I stopped the car (at the Morgan factory) and re-started about 15 minutes later. Massive steam poured into the cabin as though the de-humidifier had poured its contents back into the system. (I had something similar on my Renault Alpine GTA V6 many years ago when the aircon still worked - must get that done!). It is an air-con issue but may not be a 'problem' - after a few minutes with fans and windows open I was back to normal. But a Morgan will never be a BMW even if it uses the same engine. (Thank the Lord.)

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#40370 - 04/02/10 02:58 PM Re: New owner - S3 queries [Re: wiscos]
afr Offline
New to Talk Morgan

Registered: 20/07/09
Posts: 22
Loc: Glasgow
Wiscos, interesting to learn all the small differences between the series which can be appreciated during use.

I certainly have a lot to learn about my car but can easily say it's the most elegant car I've ever owned - a unique proposition nowadays. Really feel very priviliged to own it, as I suspect all Morgan owners do old and new.

Now, about reclining the non-reclining seats... smile

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#40373 - 04/02/10 03:44 PM Re: New owner - S3 queries [Re: afr]
1560 Offline
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Has a lot to Say!

Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 1399
Loc: european union
once more driving both RoadsterV6&Maxie today,
I find the V6 more responsive...until you look at the speedo scared

still strange how people go completely nuts when the see the Aeromax, like hitting the horn to give thumbs
while queing, they walk up on to the street to check the badge up front
I'm thinking of putting Dacia on the back laugh2



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#40374 - 04/02/10 03:54 PM Re: New owner - S3 queries [Re: Boshly]
Rbt Aero8 Offline
Learner Plates Off!

Registered: 27/02/09
Posts: 435
Loc: Great Britain
Originally Posted By: Boshly
Originally Posted By: afr

Central locking/alarm still gone awol but that's ok as I was actually expecting it go off when I entered using key only. As most other cars would. laugh



I believe the cars don't have an alarm (unless after market) and as such wouldnt 'go off'. Its immobiliser and central locking only.

Of course I stand to be corrected.....

PS - lovely car!!


Think you are right Boshly - my S4 has central locking and immobiliser but no alarm.

Lovely car afr!
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#40375 - 04/02/10 04:22 PM Re: New owner - S3 queries [Re: Rbt Aero8]
Matt C Offline
Learner Plates Off!

Registered: 19/04/07
Posts: 352
Loc: Gloucestershire
Great looking Aero afr, but I would say that as our cars share the same external colour/spec grin2. Like you I wasn’t completely sold on the dark inset colour of the my wheels, but now I love them, in fact I’ve now changed/added a few other black things, rear diffuser, wiper arms & blades, exhaust side exit trim. I thinking of tackling the front grill next, kind of a de-chroming exercise!! hide

IIRC did you car come with some swanky boot luggage?

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#40407 - 05/02/10 12:21 PM Re: New owner - S3 queries [Re: Matt C]
afr Offline
New to Talk Morgan

Registered: 20/07/09
Posts: 22
Loc: Glasgow
De-chroming grill? oldgit ...Will be interesting to see that but I do like the chrome on Morgans.

Yes, came with some Morgan luggage, which fits quite neatly into boot.




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