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#551605 - 03/01/19 10:56 PM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Clipper]
Craig Jezz Offline

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Registered: 27/03/17
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Loc: Oxon
Originally Posted By Clipper
Talking to the Wolf man at Blenhiem, a Plus 4 owner came up asking if they made one for his car.

He had just returned from the Dordogne saying his Morgan had become stranded on a huge traffic hump.



Like this one I purchased from Cain


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#551612 - 04/01/19 12:01 AM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Peter J]
Shooter Offline

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Registered: 06/09/07
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Loc: Oreton, Shropshire
I have this one on the S5

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/518381/New_sump_guard#Post518381

Because I have all round adjustable suspension and adjusted ride height it does sit LOW!!! I have got used to the sound of scrapes!

It does allow a gap between the sump plug and the guard as well.
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#551614 - 04/01/19 01:11 AM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Peter J]
waikiore Offline
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Registered: 23/05/17
Posts: 389
Loc: auckland new zealand
He does sit low, luckily we were following him on lovely smooth French roads where even a trad is like a flying carpet.
Not so a week or two later when I pulled over to check our bags north of Bristol and grounded on a rock - felt like the hardest impact I have had in a car and the noise! At least on a yacht when you do a bit of unplanned Hydrographic work it is relatively quiet.
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#551616 - 04/01/19 07:02 AM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Peter J]
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On 4 cyl. Trads, it’s just the crossmember which contacts first, still a horrible feeling when it happens but not a disaster. If nothing else, the guard Craig has should at least change the noise to a soft rub.

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#551655 - 04/01/19 11:06 AM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Ale_72]
Neilda Offline
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Registered: 26/04/12
Posts: 4345
Loc: Surrey. UK
Originally Posted By Ale_72
I think it's important to know what to expect.
In Italy and Switzerland we do not have those fancy/horrible speed bumps you have in UK, so the risk is anyhow lower.
I mounted it mainly because of the center lower dual-leaf driveway gate locking system that already twice obliged me to change the sump since it has the same height of the sump oil drain plug.


Ouch! I had gates with a central stop plate - I had it lowered so that low cars wouldn't hit it.

The sump protector is a great bit of kit. But it is a rubbing plate rather than some bullet proof thing. If you are going over uneven ground, with high spots, and assuming you're travelling slowly, the plate will tell you that you've grounded the car - without ruining the engine. You either back off, or you proceed slowly. That's its purpose.

I would say, conservatively, that it has saved my engine a dozen times from oil loss through rubbing the sump plug on uneven ground. It has saved it even more times as it touches pretty much every speed bump.

I don't need a frame mounted device as I am not rallying off-road at high speed. This is for 'normal' use. smile
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#551658 - 04/01/19 11:12 AM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Neilda]
Ale_72 Offline

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Registered: 07/03/13
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Loc: Zurich, Milan
Originally Posted By Neilda
Ouch! I had gates with a central stop plate - I had it lowered so that low cars wouldn't hit it.

I have that in the condo where I often leave the car and I do not have any possibility of having that changed/lowered.
Both of the time I ruined my sump I heard a very slight "Zingggggg" noise and vibration of 0.5 sec. No major fault, but enough to touch the drain plug, twist it a little bit and have a very minor leak (let's say a 20cm wide oil leak on the floor in one/two weeks) but with the follow consequences:
- 8 liters of oil
- New oil sump
- Lot of bad words

I hope that with the protector the noise (if I forget to pass on the side) will be maybe stronger but no damage will happen.
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#551669 - 04/01/19 12:22 PM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Peter J]
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Just to clarify, i think the skid plate on the trad is a good mod but if everybody seems to be hitting their sumps on the Aero based cars this plate is now sitting a lot lower. You catch that sump in a corner where the bracket attaches you could do some serious damage to the block. Neilda if you are now touching and scraping as much as you say pressure will be extended on those mounts that screw into the sump and over time will fracture. I don't think Bmw would be too happy either. As mentioned previously this is
just an observation my car's must be the exception to the rule no sump grinding at 60k miles,.. the exhaust yes.


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#551692 - 04/01/19 01:40 PM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: aerotaff]
Ale_72 Offline

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Registered: 07/03/13
Posts: 998
Loc: Zurich, Milan
Originally Posted By aerotaff
this plate is now sitting a lot lower

In reality is not that much lower.
Look at the drain plug height here



Other pics here:
https://www.wolfperformance.co.uk/aero-sump.html
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#551707 - 04/01/19 02:47 PM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: Peter J]
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The good thing about Talk Morgan Ale is we can agree to disagree, enjoy your new sump plate. Just been for a quick spin bloody cold in West Wales.

Em

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#551708 - 04/01/19 02:50 PM Re: Protect That Sump [Re: aerotaff]
Ale_72 Offline

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Registered: 07/03/13
Posts: 998
Loc: Zurich, Milan
Originally Posted By aerotaff
enjoy your new sump plate.

I'd love to but in the last two years it was depressive. Just picked up the car from the yearly service.
Km done in 2017: 3.600 frown
Km done in 2018: 2.400 ooo
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