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#46819 - 04/07/10 08:40 AM LandRover Evogue
moggieplus4 Offline
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Registered: 20/02/09
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As most Morgan owners seem to have or hanker after Land Rovers, I wonder what they make of the new Land Rover Evogue.

As an owner of a Freelander,I think it's a winner but would want it in 4x4 mode.

Is it going to be a "marmite" car? (or vegemite if Australian!)

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#46823 - 04/07/10 11:48 AM Re: LandRover Evogue [Re: moggieplus4]
Ivo Offline
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I'm not at the potential customer for this kind of car because I don't really like SUV's. ooo
But if a 4x4, than the real thing: Landy, Mercedes G or Wrangler. thumbs But those I don't need.

But I must say, that I like the look the Evogue.

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#46828 - 04/07/10 01:18 PM Re: LandRover Evogue [Re: Ivo]
Easter Offline
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too posh for me, I'll stick with Defender 90, but it will sell like hot cakes, the market for an entry level RR is huge

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#46837 - 04/07/10 05:10 PM Re: LandRover Evogue [Re: Easter]
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CSK - Spen King father of original [and best imo] Range Rover died last weekend following cycle accident
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news...-1925-2010.html

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#46855 - 05/07/10 06:24 AM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Easter]
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Shame about CSK, though I guess he'd had a pretty good innings...

As for the Evoque sick2 definitely NOT an RR, a Freelander replacement maybe.

I'll stick with my 90.
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#46859 - 05/07/10 07:52 AM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
Simon Offline

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I'm not sure why they changed the name from LRX to Evoque? The name doesn't bother me; however, the change of what was the original concept does.

Land Rover originally pitched the LRX as a diesel hybrid with Range Rover luxury but in a small package. This wasn't going to be lip service to luxury but actually scaling down the RR into a format that many current RR owners would feel more comfortable with.

Personally, I felt the idea made a lot of sense. The driving position of an SUV makes for a more enjoyable long distance drive (while this is my opinion, it is one I have formed over many many many 10,000s of motorway miles both in the UK and in Europe in a RHD vehicle), there are plenty of luxury car owners who simply by larger cars because they are the only ones offered with the features and trim that they want (I have been banging the drum, calling for a small luxury car for ages (coach works Minis anyone?) and lastly hybrid - a diesel hybrid makes sense (just because you drive a RR doesn't mean you don't want to save on fuel).

The LRX was promised to be: fuel efficient, combine luxury (RR Vogue level) in a small platform (it was designed to be VW Golf size), offer a raised driving position in a car that was both built with eco sensitive material and built in an eco sensitive manner.

What they seem to have delivered is a Freelander-esque car with zero hybrid option and all of the interesting eco ideas dropped. Chances are the trim level will also be far less than they first mooted, so as not to steal sales from the RR.

I'll reserve final judgement until I can see one in the metal and understand the model line but at the moment it seems like another poor implementation of what looked like an exciting concept car.
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#46860 - 05/07/10 07:56 AM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Simon]
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Here is a link to the original Land Rover LRX article with dedicated web site link .

It is worth looking at the micro site for the LRX to see how LR (before Tata Motors (India) takeover) were pushing the concept.
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#46864 - 05/07/10 11:35 AM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: TalkMorgan]
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It seems that Proton has also taken on a celebrity design consultant like LR's Posh Beckham, read all about it in the latest version of Sniff Petrol. laugh2
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#46868 - 05/07/10 01:03 PM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Aeroman]
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damn, I must admit I like the way it looks on the pictures,
I hate those semi-4X4 when I encounter them on the road,
but if my GF would want this,she'ld get it
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#46876 - 05/07/10 05:40 PM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: 1560]
Alistair Offline
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LRX is very hard to patent/protect is my guess. Non words like Evoque sorry Evogue borrow the pixie dust from big brother RR Vogue name and then tweak it to a word which can be protected in many regulatory domains.

Non words avoid the blunderful concept of the french Toyota MR2 launch being referred to as Toyota launching a sh*t coupe.

It allows a single brochure/badge/name/publicity campaign to travel the world. I would have to say they have chosen a very very good name for it given this "non-word" marketing speak world we live in.

As a play on words it is quite good, Evocative, Vogue, E-Vogue. Had it been a hybrid would even hit the iPod e-gadget geek moment.

I only hope this super marketing world is not going to overpower the brutally strong brand reputation that RR/LR have spent many years building and go all Beck'm Jeans on us. Might ChavRover be the next model ?

Now who else did that sound like G4FUJ ?

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#46900 - 06/07/10 04:10 AM Re: LandRover Evogue [Re: Ivo]
rubymorgan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ivo
I'm not at the potential customer for this kind of car because I don't really like SUV's. ooo
But if a 4x4, than the real thing: Landy, Mercedes G or Wrangler. thumbs But those I don't need.

But I must say, that I like the look the Evogue.

Sunny greetings,
Ivo

have Morgan ever considered a 4 wheel drive Morgan life car, even a Suzuki 4x4 chassis with a 4/4 body. I think about the same size wheel base. It would make an interesting vehicle and a wolf in sheep's clothing too? envy
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#46904 - 06/07/10 05:58 AM Re: LandRover Evogue [Re: rubymorgan]
Graham, G4FUJ Online   content
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Have you seen the golf buggy Peter?
maybe that could 'grow up' into a 4x4 laugh2

Cheers,
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#46906 - 06/07/10 06:00 AM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Alistair]
Graham, G4FUJ Online   content
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Originally Posted By: Alistair
I only hope this super marketing world is not going to overpower the brutally strong brand reputation that RR/LR have spent many years building and go all Beck'm Jeans on us. Might ChavRover be the next model ?

Now who else did that sound like G4FUJ ?


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#47024 - 07/07/10 02:10 PM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Alistair]
Simon Offline

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Registered: 05/08/06
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Originally Posted By: Alistair
I only hope this super marketing world is not going to overpower the brutally strong brand reputation that RR/LR have spent many years building and go all Beck'm Jeans on us. Might ChavRover be the next model ?


I fear they may already be there... by all accounts, Useless Spice is working with Tata on the first special edition Evoque doh

...actually, thinking about it, the match may be perfect! If my concerns about 'style' over substance prove to be founded with the Evoque, she would be the ideal brand pairing. evil
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#47028 - 07/07/10 02:28 PM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Simon]
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Registered: 26/05/09
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Loc: South Wales UK
Originally Posted By: Simon
Originally Posted By: Alistair
I only hope this super marketing world is not going to overpower the brutally strong brand reputation that RR/LR have spent many years building and go all Beck'm Jeans on us. Might ChavRover be the next model ?


I fear they may already be there... by all accounts, Useless Spice is working with Tata on the first special edition Evoque doh

...actually, thinking about it, the match may be perfect! If my concerns about 'style' over substance prove to be founded with the Evoque, she would be the ideal brand pairing. evil



Gentlemen ( and Ladies),
We all need to be more tolerant of these things. Fresh, new ideas reflecting the Society in which we all live are what makes the world go round and ensure progress

You certainy won't find me ranting about such matters

Love and peace

G innocent
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#47069 - 08/07/10 05:50 AM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: GLLHG]
Graham, G4FUJ Online   content
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Tata.... India... Spice...

I think it's all covered rofl

Sadly, Gerwyn, you are spot on with the "Society" comment scared

Cheers,
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#47076 - 08/07/10 10:59 AM Re: Land Rover Evogue [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ
Tata.... India... Spice...

I think it's all covered rofl

Sadly, Gerwyn, you are spot on with the "Society" comment scared

Cheers,

Graham,
Depressing thought- innit!!
Cheers,
G
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#47089 - 08/07/10 05:49 PM Re: LandRover Evogue [Re: rubymorgan]
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Originally Posted By: rubymorgan
have Morgan ever considered a 4 wheel drive Morgan life car, even a Suzuki 4x4 chassis with a 4/4 body. I think about the same size wheel base. It would make an interesting vehicle and a wolf in sheep's clothing too? envy


Now SWMBO would like an 'Evogue' and she has'nt even seen one yet. The umpteen years old from new Susuki Vitara with 14k miles on the clock would solve a problem in a 4/4 body, even as rediculous as it may look with its long lanky legs. No future Gate Stop worries - Yipee happy3
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