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#48030 - 26/07/10 11:02 PM
Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
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Dear All, Advance notice that this August on Ebay my late fathers morgan will be offered for auction. An extensive album of pictures taken yesterday can be found at - http://gallery.me.com/johse#100150 - simply cut and paste to your browser bar. Details of the car: > model: supersports > year: 1934 > body_style: barrel back three wheeler > colour: two tone mid blue over cream (not original, left factory in black) > MOT: Current > car_body: exceptional > interior: excellent > engine: excellent > chassis: excellent > history: Inherited car from late father in January 2010. Left the factory as a MK4 Matchless but now fitted with the magnificent V-twin JAP engine. Taxed & MOT'd, perfect runner. Many new parts fitted + some nice detailing. Not concours as dad enjoyed running it and was core local member of West Mids three-wheeler club. My Father brought the car in 2002 from the grandson of E. B. Ware 1920's Morgan Racer and JAP engine developer. Just fitted at considerable expense professionally referbed radiator & steering wheel. More technical details / history to follow. Regards Jason jayandt@gmail.com
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#48039 - 27/07/10 07:53 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
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Learner Plates Off!
Registered: 29/09/07
Posts: 322
Loc: Jersey, Channel Islands
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Many more pictures of it being detailed here Looks a lovely trike
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#48069 - 27/07/10 07:48 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: Brian V]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
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Technical details on trike as follows all signed and verified by the VSCC (Vintage Sports Car Club): Morgan Supersports registered on the 19th December 1934, left the factory in black with body number 972 with a a MK4 / 759 engine, gearbox number MR 1822. Fitted in 1995 with a JAP engine 1096, chassis number D1322, Bore 85.7, Stroke 95.0.
Mentioned in MTWC (Morgan Three Wheeler Club) Bulletin in 1957 under a new member registering, J. A. Spearing of Middlesex. Several changes of owner later mentioned in a 1970's Bulletin as J. R. Hazell joins the club. In 1995 the Bulletin carries a picture of the car about to charge up the Brooklands test hill in Surrey. November 2002 purchased by my father from the grandson of E. B. Ware the 1920's Morgan racer and JAP engine developer.
When my father brought it it was MOT'd, running and fitted with the Morris hydraulic front break conversion and electric starter. I have hand written notes from my father detailing the work he undertook on the car from there on. Very few bills are present in the history file as he made or bartered most of the bits off club members. However much of the work can be validated by WM club members. He used the car extensively over the time he owned it and it visited all local and national club meetings and went to Europe a couple of times for international gatherings. The notes and history show the following work carried out:
2003 to March 2005 Fuse box fitted. Alternator fitted. Sliders replaced. New brake shoes fitted. New soft main springs. 3 x Avon 400-18 tyres fitted and balanced. 2 x new cylinder barrels. 2 x new pistons (standard size). Valves ground in. New valve springs fitted. Air valve assembly fitted to carburettor's. Timing and rocker box hairline cracks welded. Pass cam shaft bush made and fitted (crank case end). Speedo cable fitted and sprocket nut drive made.
October 2005 Exhaust valve guides replaced. Track rod pins (cones) replaced. Chain renewed 3/4" 80 links.
October 2006 New main and rebound springs fitted. New +0.020 pistons fitted Barrels honed to fit
April 2007 Motorcycle indicators fitted. Carburetor receives new jets and needles + slide (180 + 4 cut out)
January 2008 All new valve guides machines and fitted.
March 2008 New brake cylinders fitted to back plates. New balls and cups on track rods changed.
October 2008 New rear springs fitted. New front and rear sprockets fitted (42 - 22). Cut off slide fitted to carburettor.
October 2008 New chain fitted (4 extra teeth required due to new sprockets).
August 2009 King-pins replaced. Body re-sprayed. Radiator re-chromed. Windscreen frame re-chromed. Lambaretta shock absorbers fitted to front suspension. Steering wheel recorded and re-lacquered.
June 2010 passed MOT.
It has a green log book and owners manual. I will be filming the car in action tomorrow and will supply a link to a Youtube video (hopefully uploaded tomorrow night).
If anything let this be a lesson to those who have ever lusted after or wanted a trike that they are not for the faint hearted...
Regards Jason
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#48081 - 28/07/10 06:10 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: HindmostAttitude]
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Learner Plates Off!
Registered: 27/02/09
Posts: 435
Loc: Great Britain
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Good luck with the sale - looks stunning
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#48087 - 28/07/10 08:56 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: Rbt Aero8]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 25
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Thanks RtbAero8. It is all a pretty major deal the sale to be honest. My father was roaring around in the trike in November on the MTW (Morgan Three Wheeler) Holly run and then a month later was lying in a hospice with days to live.
The prospect of the trike going which defined his interests and passions all his adult life is a very sensitive issue for the family. That said, these posting are an unashamed exercise in getting as much for the trike as possible for my widowed mother. I've posted the details elsewhere and am getting some interest from the US. It would be lovely to see the car remain with the local MTW club scene, but as I say getting the most for it is our primary aim. Its looking like the 9th of August it will go on Ebay.
One of the members of the MTW club is coming over tonight so I can film it being started and driven. I will the post a link on this forum to Youtube were those interested can see it in action.
One tiny consolation is that my father also left a exceptional 1975 +8, rover four speed with 29,000 miles on the clock in BRG (Konies, camber plates, role bar, up rated oil pick-up and K&N's, stainless exhaust). I can't say I ever took any real notice of this car. Dad insured me on it twenty years ago and I’ve probably driven in twice in this time. However the last few months it’s clocked up a 200 hundred miles, including a pilgrimage to the factory. What pleasure there is driving one of these incredible machines, fighting the steering on tight bends, the blat from the exhaust as you floor it in third….sublime...WHAT A CAR! I have become a Morgan man at last. He would have approved. Jason
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#48110 - 28/07/10 06:43 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: moggieplus4]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
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Moggieplus4: thanks for the lovely link to the car's recent history. By chance the trikes history file contains a print out of your watercolour, you must have sent dad a copy by e-mail.
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#48112 - 28/07/10 07:25 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: HindmostAttitude]
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Lord Trois-Roues
Charter Member
Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 5030
Loc: Eton and Lagos
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What a lovely trike Jason, and I love the care in which you have prepared it for sale and the sad, but interesting story. A very special car indeed. I would really love to own it, having started my original connection with Morgan's by wanting a trike so that I could drive a year earlier than a car licence. However, I have no doubt that my mechanical abilities would not extend to keeping it running properly. May I wish you the very best of luck at the up-coming eBay auction, I hope that it does find a good home and also as you intend helps out your widowed Mother. It would be interesting to see some photos of the Plus 8 and also learn a little more of its particular history. Best Brian P.S. Maybe moggieplus4 could also post up a photo of his drawing of the trike on this thread? 
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#48125 - 29/07/10 05:55 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: HindmostAttitude]
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Green & Grown Up
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Registered: 10/05/09
Posts: 1930
Loc: Buckinghamshire UK.
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Jason, A very sad but excellent thread. My condolences to you and your family. Your father must have been quite a character as one would need to be with so much dedication to his Pride & Joy, what a beautiful car. I hope that the sale goes well. Frank.
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#48126 - 29/07/10 05:59 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: Aeroman]
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Shakey Bin
Talk Morgan Addict
Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 3488
Loc: Surrey
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Wow, what a lovely car and wonderful yet, touching story  The cherry on the top being your 'conversion' to Morgans. He would indeed have been proud, I'm sure. I Look forward to a successful sale and seeing you on here more often?
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#48142 - 29/07/10 07:01 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: Boshly]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 25
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Thank you to members for endorsing the approach we are taking with my father’s car. I filmed it in action yesterday evening and will edit and post to Youtube tonight.
What an insane machine! I did take it for a spin myself, closely tutored by a MTW club member and friend of dad's, but the thought that there is an open gate to reverse (where third would be on a 'normal' car) which can be soooo easily selected at speed just proved too much for my heart. I hope the sound on the video will do the exhaust note justice...it's such an emotive sound, something close to a Gatling gun being fired close to your head!
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#48368 - 01/08/10 01:42 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: moggieplus4]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 25
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As promised, for those interested here's a few minutes of the car in action last Wednesday. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkO5feJ4dKAIt will be posted on Ebay on the 9th August with the reserve set at £25,000. Regards Jason
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#48397 - 02/08/10 08:52 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: moggieplus4]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 25
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What the video fails to portray to its loss, is the smell which accompanies the drive; a delicate mix of petrol, castor oil, leather and old Band Aids….ahhh that sweet Morgan perfume!
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#48602 - 06/08/10 06:55 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: HindmostAttitude]
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Talk Morgan Regular
Registered: 27/03/10
Posts: 860
Loc: Sunny Australia
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What the video fails to portray to its loss, is the smell which accompanies the drive; a delicate mix of petrol, castor oil, leather and old Band Aids….ahhh that sweet Morgan perfume! Are we talking Castrol R ? ahh memories , woodham ferrers and the like
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#48625 - 06/08/10 11:54 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: rubymorgan]
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South Wales Correspondent
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Registered: 26/05/09
Posts: 1727
Loc: South Wales UK
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Are we talking Castrol R ? ahh memories , woodham ferrers and the like
Go on, cheat and paint castor oil up the inside of the exhaust pipe! ( Available from a good pharmacy near You  ) G
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#48634 - 06/08/10 02:54 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: GLLHG]
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le Asbo du Bling
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Registered: 23/07/07
Posts: 1746
Loc: Cambridgeshire
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Jason I found the following info from a recent auction in Herefordshire "Morgan restoration projects also proved popular with the very large crowd of mostly pre-war motor car enthusiasts. A 1938 MX 2 Super Sports three-wheeler in restored, though component form was much contested until taken on for £28,285, and an abandoned and poorly stored for 12 years 1958 Plus 4 4-Seater Sports with TR4 engine was rescued for £12,535."So its looks like you might get a fair amount of interest. I've looked behind the sofa and unfortunately I didn't find enough to make you an offer Good Luck John
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#48655 - 06/08/10 07:33 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: asbojohn]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 25
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Thanks John, We have had the chairman of the Three Wheeler Club around a few weeks ago to see the car. He new dad well and came to advise on how best to dispose of it and what reserve to set at auction.
Interest does seem to be stirring for these vintage 'pocket rockets'. That said advertising on Ebay I'm reliably informed will be certain to draw attention from the diehard [url=enthusiasthttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/wink.gif][url=enthusiasthttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/wink.gif][url=enthusiasthttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/wink.gif]enthusiasthttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/wink.gif[/url][/url][/url], the [url=collectorhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/smirk.gif][url=collectorhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/smirk.gif][url=collectorhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/smirk.gif]collectorhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/smirk.gif[/url][/url][/url], the time [url=wasterhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cool.gif][url=wasterhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cool.gif][url=wasterhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cool.gif]wasterhttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cool.gif[/url][/url][/url] and the criminally [url=insanehttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cry.gif.][url=insanehttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cry.gif.][url=insanehttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cry.gif.]insanehttp://www.talkmorgan.com/images/icons/default/cry.gif.[/url][/url][/url] It is going to be an emotional and interesting week to come!
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#48706 - 08/08/10 07:06 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: GLLHG]
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Talk Morgan Regular
Registered: 27/03/10
Posts: 860
Loc: Sunny Australia
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Are we talking Castrol R ? ahh memories , woodham ferrers and the like
Go on, cheat and paint castor oil up the inside of the exhaust pipe! ( Available from a good pharmacy near You  ) G tut tut u r very naughty
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#48723 - 09/08/10 12:19 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: rubymorgan]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 25
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It is done! Dad's trike + various JAP parts and automobilia will be listed on Ebay today at 9am. Again may I thank the founding fathers of this fantastic site, its been an excellent resource and focus for whipping up interest in the trike. I've posted on various forums around the globe these last weeks and nothing comes close to Talkmorgan for usability and professional finish.
Once the three wheeler is out of the way, I'll properly introduce the small consolation to this sorry business (a mint 1975 +8 with 29,000 on clock) and happily debate whether its wrong for me to want to plaster it in racing stickers, throw the bumpers away, tear off the windscreen, fit side-exit exhausts and tune it so flames jet out on the over-run!
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#48768 - 10/08/10 01:03 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: HindmostAttitude]
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Talk Morgan Sage
Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 6302
Loc: England
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Again may I thank the founding fathers of this fantastic site, its been an excellent resource and focus for whipping up interest in the trike. I've posted on various forums around the globe these last weeks and nothing comes close to Talkmorgan for usability and professional finish. Our pleasure. As for the Plus 8, it is your car now and one of the great things about Morgan is that they can be personalised to suit the owners use and style. I look forward to seeing some photos of it.
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#48774 - 10/08/10 04:05 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: Simon]
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le Asbo du Bling
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Registered: 23/07/07
Posts: 1746
Loc: Cambridgeshire
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Jason, As I've said before good luck with the sale and having just looked on ebay the price is certainly on the up. Now a request to all the TM members. If by chance it happens to be someone on here who ends up with the trike, please, please, please can I blag a ride in the passenger seat. The rest of you need to from an orderly queue.
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#49306 - 19/08/10 06:52 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: DaveW]
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Green & Grown Up
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Registered: 10/05/09
Posts: 1930
Loc: Buckinghamshire UK.
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£38100 22 Bids 7 Bidders The winners bid came in in the Last 2seconds That was a good auction. Revalued all of the Trikes going forward. Well Done that Man! (Seller & Bidder) The Winner outbid the automatic bidder - How do they do that Mr Ebay??
Edited by Frank 4x4 (19/08/10 07:24 AM)
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#49322 - 19/08/10 08:52 AM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: Frank 4x4]
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Talk Morgan Sage
Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 6302
Loc: England
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The Winner outbid the automatic bidder - How do they do that Mr Ebay??
With auto-bidder you have to set a limit - Mr.Last-Minute will have simply bid above the limit. Glad the sale went so well.
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#49396 - 20/08/10 05:45 PM
Re: Sale by Auction - 1934 Morgan Aero Super Sports
[Re: Simon]
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Just Getting Started
Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 25
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It is finished.....the winner of the trike has an impressive collection of three wheeler classic cars (Messerschmitt KR175, Heinkel bubble car) and wanted to fill the collection with a vintage Morgan. A great home for dad's trike. Look out for BLM 630 in the next few months rumbling through the streets of North London!
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