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#482825 - 14/11/17 02:35 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: Ian Wegg]
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That's the earlier breadvan style smile

This is the later twin cam, not how the rear wings drop after the cabin and run almost parallel with the engine cover:



No, it wasn't mine.
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#482844 - 14/11/17 04:37 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: kennyh]
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Originally Posted By kennyh
Originally Posted By madmax



Your 16v VX Breadvan must have been fairly rapid depending on state of tune as those vx engines will go up to 300 bhp !


Hi Max yes, I always liked the XE 16V engines. Both mine were mildly tuned to aprox 200bhp using the QED cams on the existing hydraulic lifters with Jenvey throttle bodies and a MBE ecu. At the time performance was similar to the the normally aspirated Exige.

Richard at Bank's own Europa race car was/still is an XE with supercharger and dyno'd at aprox 450 bhp,


450 bhp is a bit mad !!
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#482852 - 14/11/17 05:10 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Originally Posted By Ian Wegg
Originally Posted By sospan
I drove one into and out of a workshop. I was working with my dad in school hols and a lime green one came in for minor body repair/spray...

You did better than me. I sat in one in a dealer's showroom in Chichester when I was 20, but I think we both knew I couldn't afford it!

This might be a good time to say that The Avengers series 6 is currently showing every evening at 5.00pm on ITV4. Steed in his Bentley of course, and Tara King in a Europa. Worth catching for the cars.




That's a truly awful model toy of the car

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#482855 - 14/11/17 05:22 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
That's the earlier breadvan style smile

This is the later twin cam, not how the rear wings drop after the cabin and run almost parallel with the engine cover:



No, it wasn't mine.


I’ve sat in a couple at Paul Mattys and been slightly tempted in the past but the one thing I don’t like designwise is the strange line of the top of the window frame. It just looks awkward.
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#482877 - 14/11/17 07:12 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Originally Posted By Ian Wegg
Originally Posted By Ken A
I don't recall seeing a real breadvan looking similar. Is there a story here?


When I was a kid the Co-op bread van had a short hatchback type window opening through which the delivery man would remove the loaves from a head height shelf. If I Google "breadvan" most of the images I get are of the Ferrari 250 GTO, and the back of that looks very much like the breadvans I remember.

I've never heard it applied to the Europa though.

~iw


http://phscollectorcarworld.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/british-beef-series-lotus-europa-flying.html

The early examples had quite high rear panels leading to the story. I thought it had a similar growth phase to the Aero. First ones were quite different and then things morphed.
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#482899 - 14/11/17 08:58 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: Ken A]
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I did own this 2006 Lotus Europa S for a time, very different to the 60's and 70's Europa. Only 456 made and the press didn't seem to like them much but it was a fantastic car with plenty of power from the Vauxhall Astra VXR turbo engine and 6 speed gearbox. More comfortable than an Elise and a useful boot. I wish I hadn't sold it.



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#482904 - 14/11/17 09:14 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: Ken A]
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My brother in law had a Hermes (later Renaultsport) tuned Europa series 2. Amazing device. Two things stick in the memory, apart from the astonishing cornering:

- "Mum, is that a car or a thing from outer space?"

- At a police road block "We are looking for stolen televisions."


Edited by David_E (14/11/17 09:15 PM)
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#482910 - 14/11/17 10:05 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: David_E]
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Registered: 12/04/11
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Here's a heavily modified turbo-Cosworth engined one for sale.

Should be like poop off a teflon shovel

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/...=New&page=1
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#482955 - 15/11/17 07:52 AM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: David_E]
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Originally Posted By David_E
My brother in law had a Hermes (later Renaultsport) tuned Europa series 2. Amazing device. Two things stick in the memory, apart from the astonishing cornering:

- "Mum, is that a car or a thing from outer space?"

- At a police road block "We are looking for stolen televisions."


rofl
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#483084 - 15/11/17 06:23 PM Re: Lotus Europa [Re: planenut]
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Originally Posted By planenut

I did own this 2006 Lotus Europa S for a time, very different to the 60's and 70's Europa. Only 456 made and the press didn't seem to like them much but it was a fantastic car with plenty of power from the Vauxhall Astra VXR turbo engine and 6 speed gearbox. More comfortable than an Elise and a useful boot. I wish I hadn't sold it.







That's a nice looking car, I hadn't seen one before.
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