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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: SFG] #507030
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I thought 15 kg. The moment is large on the axle as it is so far behind it.

Why can't you get stuff behind the seats easily?


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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: SFG] #507043
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I am quite tall, so the seat is back on the stops. I'd have to sit on the seat to get it forward and then I can't get out. With the headrest on , its a small gap, but with the hood on, its pretty well blocked. The seat back lever works In an awkward direction with very tough springing, so I have to kneel down and lean in to get the seat back forward, at which point is now in the way. Same routine to pack stuff in. Apart from that, I lay the hood in that area and it needs to be accessible. When we toured Scotland we each had a valise behind the seats but on more than one occasion I found myself tugging them out of the way or forcing them in. And herself is already in the bar ordering drinks before I get in with the luggage, So I decided that HFS never intended that space for luggage and if I can't strap it on the rack, we'll have wear it!


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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: SFG] #507050
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Originally Posted By Stuart Green
Thanks John, I am concerned about weight. Does anyone now what the limit is for a boot rack, please?

I drove several long tours with a rather heavy suitcase. Assume close to 30kg on the rack. it was packed for two. No problem with stability but sometimes with the weather


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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: SFG] #507064
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Well the combined weight of the two boot-bags in my photo was 17kg. I drove out on Sunday and didn't seem to have a problem steering or braking. This might do the trick. Hannes, you gear was nearly double! That must have been quite a trip!


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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: SFG] #507076
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I too have driven many miles with a large case on the rack without problems.

I now use Givi Panniers - totally waterproof and easy to load / unload as well as secure.




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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: Paul F] #507094
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Originally Posted By Paul F
I too have driven many miles with a large case on the rack without problems.


Yep, no problems from a handling point of view with a large case. We use a 75 litre Samsonite, it must weigh a good 30kg by the time Jane has got all her stuff into it.

The only drawback is rearward visibility with the roof up, but the wing mirrors are all you really need.



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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: Hamwich] #507139
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
The only drawback is rearward visibility with the roof up, but the wing mirrors are all you really need.


That is the problem with my arrangement as photographed above. This year I have changed to a Heart of England Morgans low line luggage rack with a slightly different mounting arrangement. This has reduced the height of the system substantially as well as making it more stable. The gap between the panniers gives a reasonable view anyway but hoping for a better view - the shake-down run is planned for later this month so time will tell.


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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: SFG] #507275
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I use a big Samsonite case with zipped cover on the back with third brake light attached. Behind the seats usually fills up with a soft bag for the ferry and then jackets, hats, gloves, brolly etc. I also have a box in the footwell with oil, folding bucket, tools and cars bits. Can you make the photo show without having to go to the photobucket link?
http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/blue...di5qcGc=/?ref=1

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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: SFG] #507289
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Nice looking set up Andrew - the spare wheel certainly pushes the whole lot skywards.
I'm not planning on taking any car bits, or tools, other than a mulfab wheel spanner and a screwdriver to tighten loose screws. This is because I don't think I would be able to fix anything if it went wrong. I hope I'll met up with you, probably at Ulm, and you can tell me what I omitted to bring!
p.s I've been fettling the boot-bags, shortening the straps and easing the slightly dodgy clips. If you can't find me at Ulm, I'll be the one in the car park trying to collect up all the straps. The mfrs could do with providing a soft base layer to stop the bags squeezing through the racks. I'll use Correx, and I'll get some ppf fitted under the rack


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Re: MSCC Tour to Austria, June 22 [Re: The Austrian] #507291
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Originally Posted By The Austrian
Originally Posted By Stuart Green
Thanks John, I am concerned about weight. Does anyone now what the limit is for a boot rack, please?

I drove several long tours with a rather heavy suitcase. Assume close to 30kg on the rack. it was packed for two. No problem with stability but sometimes with the weather




Hannes, have you ever had a problem sourcing a replacement tyre of the right type?


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