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#513771 - 19/05/18 12:05 PM alternative tyre size 2005 4/4
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Following BGW’s recent threads about tyres for his 17-year old 4/4, he has had 190/60x15 fitted, and it sounds as if these were the original size. My 2005 4/4 had the 165/80x15 Contis fitted on 15x5” chrome wires and when I changed these to stainless I had Firestone F560s size 165x15 (no ratio!) fitted. These are now 10 years old and due to be changed. I see that 195/60x15 are 5% smaller in diameter, and of course are wider. Would that size fit my car (not a “low line”), or do I stick with 165/80x15? Or another size? Obviously I don’t want them to rub. There is much less choice in 165/80x15. I’m aware this has been discussed before but I can’t find an answer on the size, and the tyre choices keep changing.


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#513773 - 19/05/18 12:21 PM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: nputtick]
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185/70 HR15 presently on my 4/4. (Vedestein sprint classic).
195 size would have had problems with space and original rims I was told when I changed from 165/80 R15
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#513781 - 19/05/18 02:36 PM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: nputtick]
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For a 4/4 I reckon Vredestein Sprint Classics in 165/80 size are absolutely perfect. They are easily capable of coping with the power, and provide delightfully light and precise handling.
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#513784 - 19/05/18 04:42 PM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: nputtick]
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Originally Posted By nputtick
My 2005 4/4 had the 165/80x15 Contis fitted on 15x5” chrome wires and when I changed these to stainless I had Firestone F560s size 165x15 (no ratio!) fitted.

The default aspect ratio, if not listed, is 80%. smile
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#513829 - 19/05/18 08:38 PM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By nputtick
My 2005 4/4 had the 165/80x15 Contis fitted on 15x5” chrome wires and when I changed these to stainless I had Firestone F560s size 165x15 (no ratio!) fitted.

The default aspect ratio, if not listed, is 80%. smile


Actually Graham , where no aspect ratio is shown on the tyre e.g. 165R15 the default ratio is nominally 82% hide

And that brings up my 200th post



Edited by IvorMog (19/05/18 08:39 PM)
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#513831 - 19/05/18 08:43 PM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: IvorMog]
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A nominal 80.. smile
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#513892 - 20/05/18 10:28 AM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
For a 4/4 I reckon Vredestein Sprint Classics in 165/80 size are absolutely perfect. They are easily capable of coping with the power, and provide delightfully light and precise handling.


I´m very happy with them, too.

@nputtick Do you have a picture from your car with the 165x15 balloon tires? I think they look very classic.


Edited by Jens (20/05/18 10:30 AM)
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#513994 - 21/05/18 08:50 AM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: nputtick]
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Hi Jens, I will post a photo but I’m away at the moment. The Firestone F560 do look “classic” but that doesn’t really concern me. I think I’ll go for the Vred T-trac 2 as they are less than half the cost of the Sprint Classics here in the U.K.

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#514002 - 21/05/18 11:36 AM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: nputtick]
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Originally Posted By nputtick
Hi Jens, I will post a photo but I’m away at the moment. The Firestone F560 do look “classic” but that doesn’t really concern me. I think I’ll go for the Vred T-trac 2 as they are less than half the cost of the Sprint Classics here in the U.K.


Any idea why they are much cheaper..... what are the differences...does anyone know?
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#514005 - 21/05/18 01:12 PM Re: alternative tyre size 2005 4/4 [Re: nick w]
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Originally Posted By nick w
Originally Posted By nputtick
Hi Jens, I will post a photo but I’m away at the moment. The Firestone F560 do look “classic” but that doesn’t really concern me. I think I’ll go for the Vred T-trac 2 as they are less than half the cost of the Sprint Classics here in the U.K.


Any idea why they are much cheaper..... what are the differences...does anyone know?
Nick


My understanding is that the Sprint classics are a basic tyre with an ‘enhanced’ price tag. Having discussed it with the area rep that came out to my house one day to inspect mine after I sent in some pics of some issues that I had. He did tell me the works cost price that I won’t repeat especially as he replaced my 3 year old tyres FOC. That said I would buy the classics again just for the look and the 185’s are a bit less skinny on my 4/4.
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