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#517332 - 12/06/18 07:45 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: +8Rich]
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Until politicians are held to account for their manifesto pledges, and their performance in the job, lobbying will be a big part of politics, and shifting manifesto pledges.
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#517334 - 12/06/18 07:52 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: mph]
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Originally Posted By mph
Perhaps the idiots who produced these tests, and the politicians that endorsed them, should be in the dock. They're responsible for mis-informing and mis-directing the consumer in the purchase of tens of millions of new cars.

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#517352 - 12/06/18 08:33 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: The Austrian]
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/indus...-defeat-devices

Looks like the software cuts the AdBlue consumption (/dirties the exhaust).

On lobbyists: they have a role in educating the lawmakers. How you regulate them I've no idea!

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#517381 - 13/06/18 12:04 AM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: +8Rich]
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This whole emissions and consumption figures needs a major overhaul by some international body that is in no one's pocket.

I suspect no such animal exists these days.
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#517429 - 13/06/18 01:30 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: DaveW]
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Originally Posted By DaveW
Until politicians are held to account for their manifesto pledges, and their performance in the job, lobbying will be a big part of politics, and shifting manifesto pledges.


Politicians can be held to account by the electorate at the ballot box.

Unfortunately much of our legislation is generated by the EU which doesn't have either a manifesto or an electorate.

Lobbying is a fact of life, to a greater or lesser extent, in all "democracies".

In the EU there are in the order of 30,000 lobbyists.

Given that they've taken years to develop a "relationship" with the relevant politicians/bureaucrats there are no prizes for guessing how many of them want the UK to remain in the EU and to maintain the status quo.

They play an active role in developing EU policy and invest billions of Euros for the privilege.

The only democratically elected body within the EU, the European Parliament, are resisting attempts to introduce transparency into the Parliament on this subject.

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#517481 - 13/06/18 06:21 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: +8Rich]
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Oh well VAG's turn again frown2

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44474781


This all puts me in a dilemma as we have always had at least 1 VW on the family fleet and 4 at one time - I like the way they nail things together, never had an oil burner though.


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#517497 - 13/06/18 07:38 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: +8Rich]
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We will have another VW, because most of the rest are 'at it' in some way..............
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#517511 - 13/06/18 08:27 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: +8Rich]
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I expect we will but it does piss you off a bit the way they continuously denied all knowledge of it until it became laughable as did they as an International group.
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#517514 - 13/06/18 08:41 PM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: +8Rich]
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I'm just going ben the lobby for the jeely oot the press.
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#517565 - 14/06/18 08:04 AM Re: Yet more Daimler recalls.. [Re: +8Rich]
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Well big companies are above the law aren't they.

Like very rich people........

Until the crap hits the fan......
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