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#528811 - 20/08/18 08:51 PM 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern
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This video has been posted today on the BBC archive site:

https://www.facebook.com/BBCArchive/videos/291927664928900/

#OnThisDay 1975: Martin Young reported from Malvern, home of the Morgan.

(Apologies if this isn't available outside the UK).
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#528818 - 20/08/18 09:07 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Thanks Ian.
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#528874 - 21/08/18 07:56 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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A great film. 1975 was when I made my first visit to the Factory. I note the waiting list was 2 years then - when I placed my order in 1980 I had to wait 12 years before taking delivery!
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#528876 - 21/08/18 08:03 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Originally Posted By Ian Wegg
This video has been posted today on the BBC archive site:

https://www.facebook.com/BBCArchive/videos/291927664928900/

#OnThisDay 1975: Martin Young reported from Malvern, home of the Morgan.

(Apologies if this isn't available outside the UK).


Interesting, Thank you Ian for posting it.
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#528887 - 21/08/18 08:32 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Great period film !!!!….now where are my flares?!!!
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#528893 - 21/08/18 08:45 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Thanks for posting that Ian

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#528907 - 21/08/18 09:26 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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That is a brilliant clip. It reminds me so much of my first factory visit. Waiting list was 6 years for me so a used one first to tide me over. I had terrible trouble buying used...they were always gone before I could get there.....not like now; a quick check on ebay shows a couple of dozen unsold!
Never grounded my first ones either.
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#528932 - 21/08/18 10:58 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Great clip.... I remember Nationwide very clearly from my teens.
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#528935 - 21/08/18 11:09 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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How nice to see Peter on film; complete with his crooked glasses.
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#528966 - 21/08/18 01:36 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Thanks for posting Ian

its a good watch
I particularly like the bit with the Mogs rolling out of the shed in various states of build

Quite comical
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#528978 - 21/08/18 02:19 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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And weren't they cheap at £2500.
Thanks for posting
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#528983 - 21/08/18 02:31 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Yes - the inflation rate since 1975 is roughly 10x.

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#529020 - 21/08/18 06:16 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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I love the alloys on the Plus8, the new ones on the final Aero Plus8's are a great copy of them.
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#529046 - 21/08/18 07:26 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Alistair]
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Originally Posted By Alistair
I love the alloys on the Plus8, the new ones on the final Aero Plus8's are a great copy of them.


Agree, I really like them too
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#529049 - 21/08/18 07:30 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: M3W55]
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Originally Posted By M3W55
Yes - the inflation rate since 1975 is roughly 10x.


So certainly much cheaper back then in real terms

If they were 25K new today, would there be a waiting list?
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#530815 - 30/08/18 06:17 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Is there a way of accessing this video that isn't via facebook?
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#530821 - 30/08/18 06:34 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Some of this stuff finds it's way onto YouTube - it maybe is worth a look see.
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#530822 - 30/08/18 06:38 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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I've tried youtube with no luck. It's odd, I sent my brother the link but it takes him to a facebook sign in page. Whereas the link takes me to the video page.....who can understand this stuff??
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#530824 - 30/08/18 06:42 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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That's a shame I don't understand that.

This is maybe worth a try. Looks like that's where Ian found it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/informationandarchives/access_archives


Edited by +8Rich (30/08/18 06:54 PM)
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#530851 - 30/08/18 09:27 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Here you go...



https://youtu.be/LSWICxd2xMM

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#530912 - 31/08/18 10:34 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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That was a wonderful look back in time!
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#530934 - 31/08/18 01:48 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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I've been looking at this again and comparing it with the one that Stewart found a couple of years ago of Thames Television's Drive In programme - see: Morgan in 1975

I thought it interesting that both items were made in 1975 but looking closer I see more similarities.

The Thames Television programme was broadcast on 21st August 1975



The BBC ran the Nationwide item the evening before!



Nationwide, as I'm sure many will recall, was a magazine type programme similar to today's One Show. I have no doubt that the BBC prepared their item to get in ahead of ITV's scheduled broadcast the following night. Having said that, the Drive In report is more detailed.

(As an aside, I don't recall seeing either programme at the time but by sheer fluke I know exactly what I was doing when Nationwide was broadcast. I was in the pub with the rest of my family celebrating my parents' 20th wedding anniversary!)

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#530965 - 31/08/18 05:06 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Thanks Ian and Richard, much appreciated.
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#530979 - 31/08/18 06:51 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Thank you for that Ian, very pleasant discovery, it added sunshine to a cloudy local morning!.... cheers
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#530996 - 31/08/18 09:18 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Fabulous Ian. My first visit to the factory was in 1980 and that's just how I remember it.
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#531018 - 31/08/18 11:31 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J
That was a wonderful look back in time!

+1 - great bit of film Ian. Not sure about the two year waiting list though, I placed an order directly on the Works in 1976 for a Plus 8 and took delivery of it in July 1982! doh
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#531022 - 01/09/18 06:20 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Fascinating stuff. Interesting that Morgan price rises are nothing new - in the film the presenters says that the 4/4 was £2.5k. 10 years later the cost was way up, my 4/4 cost around £8k.
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#531026 - 01/09/18 07:26 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Fascinating stuff. Interesting that Morgan price rises are nothing new - in the film the presenters says that the 4/4 was £2.5k. 10 years later the cost was way up, my 4/4 cost around £8k.


Don’t forget there were very high inflation rates in the 70’s

We have been in a comparibly low inflation rate era since the early 90’s
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#531027 - 01/09/18 07:28 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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The Drive-In report ( here ) has an interview with the sales manager Derek Day who gives the prices more accurately as
4/4 2-seater £2392
4/4 4-seater £2597
+8 £3375

Both programmes state there is "a two-year waiting list", but perhaps it was longer for the +8?

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#531028 - 01/09/18 07:35 AM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Don’t forget there were very high inflation rates in the 70’s


Absolutely. Just checking the price list for 1 November 1980 when my car was delivered, and the prices had gone up to:

4/4 2-seater £6210
4/4 4-seater £6883
+8 £8970

That's a 250% increase in five years.

~iw
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#532034 - 07/09/18 07:32 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Does anyone know what the price of a 4/4 2 seater was in 1999 / 2000

Or to put it another way, at the turn of the century.
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#532054 - 07/09/18 09:46 PM Re: 1975: Nationwide report from Malvern [Re: Ian Wegg]
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£17,525 in 1999 according to www.morganville.org/price-history
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