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How to push a Morgan #533379
18/09/18 01:42 PM
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Last weekend getting a dead battery by my daughter, I use a jump start cable to start and return home.
But I wonder how and where the car can be pushed by hand without damage to the soft aluminium body?

I have changed the battery by a Varta D21 12V 60Ah 600A. Sizes 242*175*175mm. The height is critical, 175mm being just the limit, some "standard" batteries having a height of 190mm protude the battery access hole and the cover plate cannot be closed.


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2005 PLUS 4
Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533380
18/09/18 01:51 PM
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I push my Plus 8 out of the garage backwards by pushing on the top edge of the cockpit where the ash frame is just forward of the rear wheel arch that way you can steer with the other hand if you need to.

Moving it forwards I push on the spare wheel, or if at the side of the car on the dashboard crash pad, handy for steering again. In 14 years I have not noticed any adverse effects doing this, however it does remind me every time how light these cars are. I would struggle pushing either of the tin tops with one hand.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green prev
1994 Connaught Green +8 prev





Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533429
18/09/18 06:39 PM
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Surely there are lots of car pushing experts on the TR7 forums who could give their advice.

Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533438
18/09/18 07:25 PM
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From my experience with past plus 8s is that a side advantage of fitting a roll over bar is that it's perfect for pushing a Mog.


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Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533439
18/09/18 07:30 PM
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Ref the TR7 dig!

That response should elicit a few comments from the wittier members of the group.

Seriously though, I have a question.

Can you bump start an EFI car if the battery is flat?

The engine would turnover but if there's no power to the ECU how would the injection and Ignition work?

I have no intention of needing to try it but I'd be interested to know just in case.

Last edited by IvorMog; 18/09/18 07:31 PM.

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Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533440
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No volts means no fuel pump control etc so a waste of time bump starting.


Regards Richard

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Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533441
18/09/18 07:44 PM
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I agree, no point trying to bump-start an EFi-equipped car.

Fortunately there's no need to either as those dinky little jumpstart batteries are cheap, easy to carry in one's toolkit, and are flippin' brilliant.


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Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: IvorMog] #533448
18/09/18 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By IvorMog
Ref the TR7 dig!

That response should elicit a few comments from the wittier members of the group.

Seriously though, I have a question.

Can you bump start an EFI car if the battery is flat?

The engine would turnover but if there's no power to the ECU how would the injection and Ignition work?

I have no intention of needing to try it but I'd be interested to know just in case.


flat battery usually means not enought o turn the engine over rather than zero volta at the terminal. even then if you got the car going down a hill with the engine in gear and the alternator being turned, you never know - you might manage it.

Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533485
19/09/18 06:53 AM
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To move my Plus 4 backwards and forwards in the garage I use the nearest wheel. I also love it that I’m able to move a car that way!


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Re: How to push a Morgan [Re: CBY] #533489
19/09/18 07:11 AM
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I also use a rear wheel.


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