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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: Alistair] #534555
27/09/18 08:41 AM
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The Shackleton has four Griffon piston engines and the Gannet has one Twin Mamaba gas turbine power unit, not the same although both do have contra rotating props and complicated gearboxes. The Gannet could shut one of it's two engines down in cruise for fuel economy and I remember seeing them flying with one prop feathered. Newark has some very interesting aircraft.


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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: planenut] #534573
27/09/18 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By planenut
The Shackleton has four Griffon piston engines and the Gannet has one Twin Mamaba gas turbine power unit, not the same although both do have contra rotating props and complicated gearboxes. The Gannet could shut one of it's two engines down in cruise for fuel economy and I remember seeing them flying with one prop feathered. Newark has some very interesting aircraft.



I did try to explain to him, Ian. But it's hard..

Or not..

Next time you'll have to pop over as well, maybe..?


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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: Stringers Best Mate] #534593
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Thanks, let me know when you are going next. I hope it's a warm dry day though.

Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: DaveW] #534606
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"The Shackleton has four Griffon piston engines and the Gannet has one Twin Mamaba gas turbine power unit, not the same although both do have contra rotating props and complicated gearboxes. The Gannet could shut one of it's two engines down in cruise for fuel economy and I remember seeing them flying with one prop feathered. Newark has some very interesting aircraft."

Yes Douglas mentioned the engine was mostly okay but the gearbox temperatures and mechanisms often went out of temperature range and so got switched off.


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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: planenut] #534614
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I believe the later Shackeltons also had the benefit of two goblin jet engines which if not rapidly throttled back after takeoff could increase the air speed above design limits!

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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: Brum Rum] #534716
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Originally Posted By Brum Rum
I believe the later Shackeltons also had the benefit of two goblin jet engines which if not rapidly throttled back after takeoff could increase the air speed above design limits!

Andy


They also had very comfy high seat chairs


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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: DaveW] #534756
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I never knew Goblins sat on high seat chairs..!


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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: Stewart S] #534808
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Originally Posted By Stewart S

They also had very comfy high seat chairs


Unlike the Vulcans, I couldn't believe what the poor crews had to put up with. It really made me realise what an incredible feat he Falklands raid truly was.


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Re: Newark Air Museum - September 2018 [Re: Hamwich] #534831
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Stewart S

They also had very comfy high seat chairs


Unlike the Vulcans, I couldn't believe what the poor crews had to put up with. It really made me realise what an incredible feat he Falklands raid truly was.


+1

A Vulcan cockpit on a long mission was not a place to be if you had a weak bladder.


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