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Re: Flat battery [Re: Boshly] #5310
19/06/07 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Boshly


Are the newer cars the same?

BtG
Nope! If the heated screen stayed on, I don't think the battery would last 1 day....


Re: Flat battery [Re: Boshly] #5311
19/06/07 06:59 AM
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I will check my car today BTG but it seems pretty stupid for the light to stay on, what reason were you given?


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Re: Flat battery [Re: Michael] #5313
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I would try to locate the fuse for the heated screen and remove it as temporary measure, or else your battery would run down in no time....


Re: Flat battery [Re: kin] #5320
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Originally Posted By kin
Originally Posted By Michael
Kin

I was thinking more of owners of 3 or 4 year old cars with 3000 miles on the clock
Sorry, Michael, I didn't realised you're refering to Simon somestick laugh2

I quiet agree with your statement regarding 3/4 yr old cars with minimal mileage, my thought are that certain components could deteriorate more or even seized such as calipers, piston rings, water pump, bearings etc etc. due to infrequent use, I could be wrong...

Cearealsurfer could probably able to answer the downfall of such low mileage car(if there's any confused2)


Not driving a car enough can cause all sorts of problems... however things have become a lot better with more modern materials and bearing designs.

However in terms of pure storage by far the biggest effect is the quality of storage solution. The average garage is not fantastic and dry-proofing or using a car-coon can increase the longevity of corosion caused by the atmosphere.

The second largest form of corosion I usually see on morgans is UV. A lot of the rubbers are on the exterior of the car (& TYRES!!) and these can quicly loose memory, sag and crack. Trad perspex windows can suffer as well... becoming crazed around the edges. Certain colors do not survive well either.

As for internal corrosion, fuel lines, brake lines/calipers can all deteriorate if not driven OR regularly monitored and changed at service intervals. For longer storage terms draiing the systems and properly moth-balling the car can conserve a considerably larger amount of the original parts. Older oil lubricated seals can perish if stood for longer periods... a tell tale sign is oil leaking out causing small puddles. These seals will often quicly perish if driven upon and will continually leak only getting worse.

The WORST cause of car deterioration is washing a car and putting in the garage. even if the bodywork is dry the mechanicals just start to rust and deteriorate. I personally tend to wash the car before use rather than after to allow the car to dry on the move using the heat of the engine/exhaust/air friction and sunlight to dry it off, returning the car to the garage only once it's dry.

A long term stood car on the surface will often look pretty clean and tidy. On closer inspection they tend to have lots of smaller niggly problems that often can cause a LOT to fix/resolve.

Re: Flat battery [Re: cerealsurfer] #5322
19/06/07 06:36 PM
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All of the above plus:

Flat spots on tyres
Corroded brake discs
Sticking brake callipers
Leaky valve seals
knackered battery
Hardened suspension rubber mounts
Sticky piston rings
Dry joints and moving parts
Internal engine corrosion caused by condensation

etc etc etc

Driven cars are best not showpieces


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Re: Flat battery [Re: Michael] #5327
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Originally Posted By Michael
All of the above plus:

Flat spots on tyres
Corroded brake discs
Sticking brake callipers
Leaky valve seals
knackered battery
Hardened suspension rubber mounts
Sticky piston rings
Dry joints and moving parts
Internal engine corrosion caused by condensation

etc etc etc

Driven cars are best not showpieces


Yeh :-) The list is enevitably long and expensive to fix.............................

Re: Flat battery [Re: cerealsurfer] #5328
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You guys are real rays of sunshine winky

I hope all this talk of cars crumbling to pieces due to lack of use will cause some driving to Goodwood this weekend?!? flag woohoo

Re: Flat battery [Re: Michael] #5351
20/06/07 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Michael
I will check my car today BTG but it seems pretty stupid for the light to stay on, what reason were you given?


Hi Michael, not given any reason as didnt ask anyone, just switched the engine off took the key out and the light stayed on. Still not sure if the actual heated screen is on but didnt want to find out the hard way frown

BtG


Cheers

BtG
Re: Flat battery [Re: kin] #5352
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Originally Posted By kin
I would try to locate the fuse for the heated screen and remove it as temporary measure, or else your battery would run down in no time....


Key I guess is to remeber not to leave it on doh

BtG


Cheers

BtG
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