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#540161 - 31/10/18 05:02 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: P Dron]
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Originally Posted By P Dron
Originally Posted By Peter J
Nice to see the wooden trestles are still the foundation of the assembly process!


Are you sure those are wooden trestles?


They are metal trestles. As used in the chassis shop.

The photo by the way G came from Autocar rather than pistonheads so must be an official photo.


Edited by Jays (31/10/18 05:08 PM)
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#540171 - 31/10/18 06:03 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: Jays]
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Originally Posted By Jays
Originally Posted By P Dron
Originally Posted By Peter J
Nice to see the wooden trestles are still the foundation of the assembly process!


Are you sure those are wooden trestles?


They are metal trestles. As used in the chassis shop.

The photo by the way G came from Autocar rather than pistonheads so must be an official photo.


I thought so, John. I tried to upload your nice photo of my 4/4 in build in 2015, on obviously wooden trestles, to show the difference. I haven't cracked it so far, not sure why.

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#540176 - 31/10/18 06:11 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: Jays]
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Ah, thanks J.
I missed it in Autocar. Unless it was only on their web site?
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#540185 - 31/10/18 06:31 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: Jays]
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I sent the photo to a Lotus Obsessed pal and he said that the tub had "Lotus written all over it" and also commented that there was more than enough length for a straight 6.

The present BMW straight 6 is available with one or two turbos and a power output from the B58 of 322 to 382 (single Turbo) and from the S55 (twin turbo) from 405 to over 500bhp.

I have a B58 with 335 bhp in the M140 and it is a delight, instant power, oodles of torque - it peaks at 1520 rpm with 369 ft lbs and is flat from there to 4500 rpm.
The engine is also used in the latest Toyota Supra "J29". I think that makes it good enough for MMC...

I have asked Williams to "register my interest" with MMC.
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#540209 - 31/10/18 07:50 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: Peter J]
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Well Peter, there have been ex Lotus chassis guys working at Morgan for at least three years.....so a good guess!


G......yes, just on the Autocar website!


Edited by Jays (31/10/18 07:51 PM)
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#540314 - 01/11/18 03:53 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: flyfisher]
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Look at the bulkheads and there's a RHD and a LHD.

It also looks like if there's to be an ash frame, it will slot over the tub as in the Aero Plus 8.........
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#540325 - 01/11/18 05:39 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: flyfisher]
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The chassis in the picture is not for the trad, it's for their new expensive range - ie Aero replacement, from how I read the article.

Maybe they will drop a relatively affordable (!) model range all together?
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#552309 - 07/01/19 06:02 AM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: Gambalunga]
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Morgan classic cars have increased in price by 25% on average over the past 5 years with no difference in specifications.
NO ABS, Power Steering, AIRCON, Windows, Stereo...
They are pretty but noisy and hard now to justify buying a new one with so much stock available of vehicles which are essentially the same.
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#552341 - 07/01/19 11:49 AM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: middlekingdommog]
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Originally Posted By middlekingdommog
Morgan classic cars have increased in price by 25% on average over the past 5 years with no difference in specifications.
NO ABS, Power Steering, AIRCON, Windows, Stereo...
They are pretty but noisy and hard now to justify buying a new one with so much stock available of vehicles which are essentially the same.


I suspect that this has been a deliberate Strategy.

Sales volumes have not fallen.
They built up cash that allowed them to but the factory freehold back
They ramped up R&D significantly

So, when the new models appear at Geneva 2019 I predict that we will see:

A Trad body sitting on the new tub, with a BMW straight 6 and a BMW hybrid 4, priced at about the level of the Roadster, which will disappear.

My prediction for Geneva 2020 is that we will see a smaller 3 cylinder engine, and a hybrid and that will replace the 4/4 and +4.

Geneva 2020 or 21 We should see a further new chassis and an Aeroesque body with a BMW V8 as the flagship, but also with a hybrid 4 for markets where a V8 is bot viable due to taxes on large engines.

By Geneva 2022 there will be fully electric versions of all cars on offer.

But I could be totally wrong!
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#552359 - 07/01/19 01:39 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: flyfisher]
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The lifespan of the V6 Roadster will depend on the engine supply contract.
So it may continue for a while.
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