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#552408 - 07/01/19 05:38 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: flyfisher]
Stewart S Offline
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Registered: 14/06/14
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Interesting

How long will the steel chassis trad remain available do we think?
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#552462 - 07/01/19 10:06 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: flyfisher]
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Registered: 11/12/08
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I can only guess, but maybe two years? The run out models will be interesting/rare/expensive.
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#552561 - 08/01/19 04:59 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: flyfisher]
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almost enough to make one book flights to Geneva in March!!!!!!
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#552568 - 08/01/19 05:30 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: Peter J]
madmax Offline
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Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By middlekingdommog
Morgan classic cars have increased in price by 25% on average over the past 5 years with no difference in specifications.
NO ABS, Power Steering, AIRCON, Windows, Stereo...
They are pretty but noisy and hard now to justify buying a new one with so much stock available of vehicles which are essentially the same.


I suspect that this has been a deliberate Strategy.

Sales volumes have not fallen.
They built up cash that allowed them to but the factory freehold back
They ramped up R&D significantly

So, when the new models appear at Geneva 2019 I predict that we will see:

A Trad body sitting on the new tub, with a BMW straight 6 and a BMW hybrid 4, priced at about the level of the Roadster, which will disappear.

My prediction for Geneva 2020 is that we will see a smaller 3 cylinder engine, and a hybrid and that will replace the 4/4 and +4.

Geneva 2020 or 21 We should see a further new chassis and an Aeroesque body with a BMW V8 as the flagship, but also with a hybrid 4 for markets where a V8 is bot viable due to taxes on large engines.

By Geneva 2022 there will be fully electric versions of all cars on offer.

But I could be totally wrong!





I hope this all happens , sounds excellent , are the factory noticing our posts as we are the cutting edge of Morgan interested clients !!
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#552574 - 08/01/19 05:55 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: madmax]
Peter J Offline
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Originally Posted By madmax
Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By middlekingdommog
Morgan classic cars have increased in price by 25% on average over the past 5 years with no difference in specifications.
NO ABS, Power Steering, AIRCON, Windows, Stereo...
They are pretty but noisy and hard now to justify buying a new one with so much stock available of vehicles which are essentially the same.


I suspect that this has been a deliberate Strategy.

Sales volumes have not fallen.
They built up cash that allowed them to but the factory freehold back
They ramped up R&D significantly

So, when the new models appear at Geneva 2019 I predict that we will see:

A Trad body sitting on the new tub, with a BMW straight 6 and a BMW hybrid 4, priced at about the level of the Roadster, which will disappear.

My prediction for Geneva 2020 is that we will see a smaller 3 cylinder engine, and a hybrid and that will replace the 4/4 and +4.

Geneva 2020 or 21 We should see a further new chassis and an Aeroesque body with a BMW V8 as the flagship, but also with a hybrid 4 for markets where a V8 is bot viable due to taxes on large engines.

By Geneva 2022 there will be fully electric versions of all cars on offer.

But I could be totally wrong!





I hope this all happens , sounds excellent , are the factory noticing our posts as we are the cutting edge of Morgan interested clients !!


I know that this place is monitored by MMC.
I've told Mark Leddington that I'm interested in the new Morgans..
But the price will be key....
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#552623 - 08/01/19 08:36 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: flyfisher]
Robbie Offline

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Key is the word, Peter also the CO2 levels as this governs the massive extra tax bill over here!
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#552627 - 08/01/19 08:53 PM Re: Latest Autocar - 2 new Morgan’s due.. [Re: Peter J]
OZ 4/4 Offline

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Registered: 25/11/11
Posts: 2403
Loc: Australia - NSW Mid North Coas...
Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By middlekingdommog
Morgan classic cars have increased in price by 25% on average over the past 5 years with no difference in specifications.
NO ABS, Power Steering, AIRCON, Windows, Stereo...
They are pretty but noisy and hard now to justify buying a new one with so much stock available of vehicles which are essentially the same.


I suspect that this has been a deliberate Strategy.


Sales volumes have not fallen.
They built up cash that allowed them to but the factory freehold back
They ramped up R&D significantly

So, when the new models appear at Geneva 2019 I predict that we will see:

A Trad body sitting on the new tub, with a BMW straight 6 and a BMW hybrid 4, priced at about the level of the Roadster, which will disappear.

My prediction for Geneva 2020 is that we will see a smaller 3 cylinder engine, and a hybrid and that will replace the 4/4 and +4.

Geneva 2020 or 21 We should see a further new chassis and an Aeroesque body with a BMW V8 as the flagship, but also with a hybrid 4 for markets where a V8 is bot viable due to taxes on large engines.

By Geneva 2022 there will be fully electric versions of all cars on offer.

But I could be totally wrong!



Interesting post and observations Peter
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