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#540316 - 01/11/18 04:00 PM Question about full metal Morgan car models
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Hello there,
I found an unusual full metal model of a classic Morgan in an antique shop in brighton. Size is about 20cm long, weight 1kg.
The only comparable model so far I have seen during a visit to the Morgan Motor Museum. See the other foto. Does anybody know, if these models are still available somewhere to buy. Who made them. Was this a small series of different models? In the pictures, the car is the same, but the driver sits in different positions. I'm curious if anyone knows about these models. I look forward to your information.



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#540318 - 01/11/18 04:24 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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#540322 - 01/11/18 05:24 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Actually, they are completely different.

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#540329 - 01/11/18 06:02 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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I’ve got a book at home on Morgan collectibles

I’ll have a look tonight if it’s in there
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#540403 - 01/11/18 10:46 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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The second model appears to be the scale model of the intended full size statue of HFS which never materialised.
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#540426 - 02/11/18 07:48 AM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: DaveW]
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It is Dave.
It's in front of the window into the recreated office of Peter Morgan, in MMC's museum. You can just see part of the owl to the right.
AFAIK there was only one like this.
Pretty certain there has been a photo of the one in the first photograph already on this forum?
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#540435 - 02/11/18 08:56 AM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Indeed, I shoot the 2. foto 4 years ago in front of the office in MMC Museum. I was there at the 100 year celebration of the factory.
I did not know that this is a model of an unrealized monument.
Maybe they had created several models in the brainstorming to decide on a final model.
That would explain why the model on picture 1 seems a bit unfinished. The window frame is still filled with material. There is still excess material under the car. Nowhere is a reference to a manufacturer engraved or pasted. That's usually the norm with every model car. That would explain why the model on picture 1 seems a bit unfinished. The window frame is still filled with material. There is still excess material under the car. Nowhere is a reference to a manufacturer engraved or pasted. That's usually the norm with every model car. The finish of the model seems identical in the details such as bonnet fastener, door hinge, lamps. Even rims and wheelangle are correct.
I suppose I found something relatively rare, not a mass product
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#540438 - 02/11/18 09:02 AM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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I also have the first model which I found in a junk shop in Devon 3 years ago and I got for £20

No identifying marks on model..very nice details and polishes up beautifully.
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#540524 - 02/11/18 04:15 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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#540525 - 02/11/18 04:16 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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#540526 - 02/11/18 04:17 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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#540527 - 02/11/18 04:18 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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TYPICAL MORGAN DRIVER !!!!


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#540528 - 02/11/18 04:19 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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#540529 - 02/11/18 04:20 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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#540544 - 02/11/18 04:43 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
TYPICAL MORGAN DRIVER !!!!



How did you manage to get into that car? grin2
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#540547 - 02/11/18 04:48 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Those are big expansion joints on that road
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#540601 - 02/11/18 07:30 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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From Michel Coumes book on Morgan Collectables

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#540668 - 03/11/18 07:47 AM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Yes, you got it. Thats the model. Thank you, for the foto.
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#540747 - 03/11/18 03:30 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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I have three of the models previously shown here, the glass one I bought on Ebay for a tenner, the large green one was a present and has a label on the underside "Lesser & Pavey Ltd., DA1 1JQ". The middle one, the original one being asked about, was also a present but I've no idea where it came from, I'd always assumed it was from MMC but maybe not.

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#540765 - 03/11/18 04:42 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Come on TMers show us your models please !!!
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#540771 - 03/11/18 04:47 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Factory made ones wink


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#540830 - 03/11/18 07:28 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: PeterG]
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grin2
I think I recognise those!
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#540918 - 04/11/18 11:29 AM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Well, you asked for it KEVFITZ.
A couple of small models

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#540919 - 04/11/18 11:32 AM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Not sure these qualify as "models" as they're soap.

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#540937 - 04/11/18 01:48 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Not appropriate!

Can you move your post to the Soap Box forum please
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#540938 - 04/11/18 01:53 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Not appropriate!

Can you move your post to the Soap Box forum please


rofl


Edited by Hamwich (04/11/18 01:53 PM)
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#540941 - 04/11/18 02:12 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Not appropriate!

Can you move your post to the Soap Box forum please


rofl

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#540966 - 04/11/18 04:43 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Funny Stewart !!!!

Like the soap models..do they do a narrow body version for those hard to clean crevices ?!!!
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#540983 - 04/11/18 05:40 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
Funny Stewart !!!!

Like the soap models..do they do a narrow body version for those hard to clean crevices ?!!!


Well I guess if they were used they’d soon become narrow bodied wink
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#540994 - 04/11/18 06:13 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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Here is a small sampling of mini Morgans that have turned up over the years....the others are still in boxes.

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#541135 - 05/11/18 06:24 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
Funny Stewart !!!!

Like the soap models..do they do a narrow body version for those hard to clean crevices ?!!!


Keep it clean Kev oops
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#541142 - 05/11/18 06:58 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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A Plus 4 Plus soap would slide into small crevices quite well.
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#541174 - 05/11/18 10:20 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: DaveW]
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Originally Posted By DaveW
A Plus 4 Plus soap would slide into small crevices quite well.


That doesn’t sound quite right Dave
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#541176 - 05/11/18 10:27 PM Re: Question about full metal Morgan car models [Re: Mike K.]
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