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#541614 - 08/11/18 12:12 PM Screwing into the ash frame.
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I am about to replace the lower (Easy-up) hood mount Tenax studs with a sturdier alternative. This will entail screwing into the ash frame. To seal the holes and to prevent water penetrating into the ash via the screws I’m intending to use an outdoor silicone sealant. My question for the experts out there is: is this necessary and if so, what sealant would you recommend?
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#541615 - 08/11/18 12:20 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Fox Terrier]
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I think I would use an outdoor no nails solution in the predrilled holes. Will help hold it firm. Seen builder's use it.
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#541616 - 08/11/18 12:21 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Fox Terrier]
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Originally Posted By Fox Terrier
I am about to replace the lower (Easy-up) hood mount Tenax studs with a sturdier alternative. This will entail screwing into the ash frame. To seal the holes and to prevent water penetrating into the ash via the screws I’m intending to use an outdoor silicone sealant. My question for the experts out there is: is this necessary and if so, what sealant would you recommend?



I simply used a white silicone grease on the threads of the screws: I used a Tenax stud that is fixed by 2 screws through a back plate, so if the stud brakes again it is a simple repair. Like this.

http://amzn.eu/d/dYTJfsK

Of course I never broke the stud again! It also meant I didn't have to remove the broken screw from the wood....
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#541618 - 08/11/18 01:01 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Fox Terrier]
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There's evidence of clear silicone sealant from the factory on the door furniture screws.

Just beware that some sealants might react with the paint........
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#541621 - 08/11/18 01:10 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Ray]
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Originally Posted By Ray
Seen builder's use it.


Builder's what?
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#541637 - 08/11/18 02:45 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Fox Terrier]
Robbie Mathisen Offline
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Ah! Wise solution. I did not put any silicone around the screws, perhaps I should have. I do not know which type of stud you have ordered, but I put on one with a circular base plate, as I recommended to you. Underneath the plate I put a home-made gasket cut to size made from a bicycle inner tube. Protects the paint and should be sufficient to prevent water ingression. But of course, silicone in addition wouldn't hurt.
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#541656 - 08/11/18 04:41 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Fox Terrier]
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If you use silicone then get the “neutral” version. Beware the one with acetic (vinegary smell) content as that could affect the paint.
I fitted a tenax to my car with the 2 screw version, made a thin rubber gasket from some rubber strip and put candle wax into the pre drilled holes. The tenax replaced a press stud that never stayed in place. The hood is a very tight fit and the fixing was slightly out of best location putting too much strain on the press stud.
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#541659 - 08/11/18 04:45 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Fox Terrier]
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This is what I would use, it’s stronger than silicone.

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#541732 - 08/11/18 09:31 PM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Fox Terrier]
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Thanks for all the replies. Most useful.
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#541767 - 09/11/18 06:11 AM Re: Screwing into the ash frame. [Re: Craig Jezz]
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Originally Posted By Craig Jezz
This is what I would use, it’s stronger than silicone.



I think the use of silicon was as a protection between wood and screw Craig....rather than its adhesive properties. Personally I’d just grease the screw. The factory doesn’t bother.
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