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#546298 - 04/12/18 12:03 PM Keeping out the drafts
Tim W Offline

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Registered: 05/03/16
Posts: 378
Loc: Herts
Many of you who have done the Albert Ball runs will have met my son Ashley, when we had our M3W. He has developed his own clothing range, concentrating on technical clothing for motorcycling. I am now going to give a blatant plug for something that he has developed which might be useful for hardened M3W drivers.

“The Orkney Baffle is designed to seal the gap between jacket and helmet (on a motor cycle). Made in England, the baffle features split panels at the front and back to ensure no draft cuts through and the lower section stays tucked in when riding. For the best thermal properties, we choose a Merino Wool - the hollow fibre allowing the yarn to trap and regulate heat.

To achieve a seamless construction for maximum comfort when worn under a helmet, we tracked down a very rare 1962, Wildt Mellor Bromley RTR twelve-inch circular knitting machine. Of the three thousand produced, only a handful are still at work. It took the best part of a year and numerous prototypes to fine-tune the stitch density, retention and panel construction.”

Here are some links for the baffle
https://www.ashleywatson.co.uk/shop/orkney-baffle-charcoal
https://www.ashleywatson.co.uk/shop/orkney-baffle-midnight

Apologies if this is not acceptable for the forum (mods please remove if you wish), but they would make good Christmas presents!

Tim
(Previous M3W owner: miss it greatly)

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#546381 - 04/12/18 05:39 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
Chris99 Offline

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Registered: 17/07/13
Posts: 2561
Loc: West Sussex, UK
Good to see Ashley appears to be doing well.

Nice looking breeze blocker but unfortunately a bit too pricey for me.
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#546386 - 04/12/18 05:53 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
Richard Wood Offline
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Registered: 03/02/16
Posts: 1636
Loc: East Harling, Norfolk UK
Remember a dry but mid winter trip by motorbike from London to Dorset. Suitable layers of clothing topped by Irwin flying jacket.

The fur collar interfaced perfectly with my full face helmet making for relatively quiet and comfortable journey despite temperature dropping to near freezing. Repeated more recently with M3W. Jacket still like new despite being 30+ years old.
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#546407 - 04/12/18 06:44 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
Stringers Best Mate Offline

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Registered: 16/10/13
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Oddly enough, I've got one of those Ashley Watson baffles on my Christmas list.. I tried on one of the Triumph motorcycles fleece neck tube the other day. Really comfy & bulky, with a simple black & white check outer, the only issue for me was the bottom still leaves a small gap where your tie would be if you wore one..

The AW baffle that I tried on has a napkin sized square that covers this area, so it scores a point there. It's pricey, though.. But still, if it works..
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#546415 - 04/12/18 07:15 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
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Registered: 26/09/14
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Looks a well made product...I have a similar item from biker days with large front and back "apron" but not merino wool...the best.

You have to ask yourself have you ever seen a sheep with a cold neck?


Enough said I think
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#546417 - 04/12/18 07:16 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
+8Rich Offline

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Registered: 15/12/09
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Loc: Devonshire

I still have a Tootal silk scarf that my first girlfriend bought me back in 1969 and it works remarkably well and still looks as good as it did back then.
It was warm enough back a few Januaries ago coming from Cambridge to Devon across Salisbury when it was -4 topless and no side screens. Warm as toast apart from my right elbow I did have a pair of gloves on though a great journey got home about 3 am.
There is something rather special about night journeys in the colder weather.
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#546422 - 04/12/18 07:24 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: +8Rich]
Peter J Online   crying
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Originally Posted By +8Rich

......There is something rather special about night journeys in the colder weather.


Especially if the moon is full and the sky clear. Somehow the moonlight adds a sharpness and driving an open car is just magical!
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#546427 - 04/12/18 07:35 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Peter J]
+8Rich Offline

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Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By +8Rich

......There is something rather special about night journeys in the colder weather.


Especially if the moon is full and the sky clear. Somehow the moonlight adds a sharpness and driving an open car is just magical!


Yes it was exactly that, as you say somehow magical you just feel so alive and you feel as if you could drive forever.
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#546434 - 04/12/18 08:03 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: +8Rich]
Hamwich Offline

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Originally Posted By +8Rich
Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By +8Rich

......There is something rather special about night journeys in the colder weather.


Especially if the moon is full and the sky clear. Somehow the moonlight adds a sharpness and driving an open car is just magical!


Yes it was exactly that, as you say somehow magical you just feel so alive and you feel as if you could drive forever.


Absolutely +1
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#546436 - 04/12/18 08:09 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
KEVFITZ Offline
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This is why I LOVE driving without a roof all of the time but especially at night
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#546446 - 04/12/18 09:32 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
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even better with the right amount of wheels and no heater!!!!!

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#546455 - 04/12/18 10:30 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
+8Rich Offline

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Registered: 15/12/09
Posts: 19478
Loc: Devonshire

Now you M3W boys and girls take adventure and exposure to a whole new order wink

If anyone is in doubt just check out the 2017 Treffen oh boy did it rain..
p.s. I do think KEVFITZ is of the same order with his Brooklands only screens and no folding windscreen though.
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#546468 - 05/12/18 06:47 AM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
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Great product, I use a similar thing for skiing but it’s horrible sweaty, synthetic material, Merino wool would be far nicer.

For true hard as nails Scotsmen though, it has to be scratchy Harris Tweed! laugh2

I don’t want to be mean and I’m the least qualified to point it out, but I’m fairly sure it’s draughts you want to exclude, not drafts. It’s wrong on the published website too.

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#546469 - 05/12/18 07:26 AM Re: Keeping out the drafts/draughts [Re: Tim W]
Tim W Offline

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Registered: 05/03/16
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Loc: Herts
Afraid that’s terrible creeping American English. I’ll try harder next time!
Thanks for the comments.
Tim


Edited by Tim W (05/12/18 11:43 AM)

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#546470 - 05/12/18 07:53 AM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
twotribes Offline
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Registered: 15/07/11
Posts: 1711
Loc: Kent & Dorset, UK
Tim - the blog on your son's website more than justifies your slightly 'cheeky' post. I'm not a biker (two wheels yes, engine no) but I found the content riveting - not just the epic travels, but also the thoughts on the ethics of manufacturing.

Well worth TMers seeking out the blog section.
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#546474 - 05/12/18 08:35 AM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
PeterG Offline

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Been looking for something like this for awhile, order one yesterday Tim. Thanks for the post.

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#546547 - 05/12/18 03:39 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
Stringers Best Mate Offline

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Nice review here..

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#546579 - 05/12/18 06:10 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
ShaunD Offline
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Registered: 31/01/17
Posts: 464
Loc: Oxford
Looks good. I’m going to order one for me and one for the missus.
The jackets look nice too.

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#546640 - 05/12/18 10:04 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
Michael H Offline
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Registered: 29/04/13
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Loc: Southern Vermont
Now if only that system could work on the rest of the car!
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#546759 - 06/12/18 05:54 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
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Perhaps Ashley could come up with a onesey😂😂😂😂

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#548114 - 14/12/18 10:21 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
gatewright Offline
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Registered: 14/03/11
Posts: 216
Loc: essex
Originally Posted By Tim W
Many of you who have done the Albert Ball runs will have met my son Ashley, when we had our M3W. He has developed his own clothing range, concentrating on technical clothing for motorcycling. I am now going to give a blatant plug for something that he has developed which might be useful for hardened M3W drivers.

“The Orkney Baffle is designed to seal the gap between jacket and helmet (on a motor cycle). Made in England, the baffle features split panels at the front and back to ensure no draft cuts through and the lower section stays tucked in when riding. For the best thermal properties, we choose a Merino Wool - the hollow fibre allowing the yarn to trap and regulate heat.

To achieve a seamless construction for maximum comfort when worn under a helmet, we tracked down a very rare 1962, Wildt Mellor Bromley RTR twelve-inch circular knitting machine. Of the three thousand produced, only a handful are still at work. It took the best part of a year and numerous prototypes to fine-tune the stitch density, retention and panel construction.”

Here are some links for the baffle
https://www.ashleywatson.co.uk/shop/orkney-baffle-charcoal
https://www.ashleywatson.co.uk/shop/orkney-baffle-midnight

Apologies if this is not acceptable for the forum (mods please remove if you wish), but they would make good Christmas presents!

Tim
(Previous M3W owner: miss it greatly)

Visited Ashley at Dalston today and purchased shirt and baffle, first class well made individual gear, Ashley is very helpful , highly recommend.
(Never met him or Tim before)

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#548177 - 15/12/18 10:53 AM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
ShaunD Offline
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Registered: 31/01/17
Posts: 464
Loc: Oxford
The baffle is great. Used it Thursday for the first time when it was very cold and was driving down from Oxford to the other side of Gatwick to drop off the M3W at the shippers for its journey to NZ19 for our road trip there in March. Kept me nice and warm around the neck. Just needed something similar to keep my feet from freezing! The baffle comes in a nice box too and would make a good Christmas present.

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#548180 - 15/12/18 11:04 AM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
ShaunD Offline
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Registered: 31/01/17
Posts: 464
Loc: Oxford
NZ, not NZ19! 🇳🇿

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#548233 - 15/12/18 04:17 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: ShaunD]
PaulV Offline
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Registered: 22/05/15
Posts: 715
Loc: Oxon
Originally Posted By ShaunD
NZ, not NZ19! 🇳🇿

But I thought your trip *was* NZ in 2019 smile

Meanwhile maybe some USB powered booties are needed wink

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#548238 - 15/12/18 04:53 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
ShaunD Offline
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Loc: Oxford
They look toastie!

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#559094 - 10/02/19 08:50 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
Tim W Offline

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Posts: 378
Loc: Herts
I hope those of you that bought some of Ashley’s clothing range are finding it comfortable and effective: he’s just made a video of a recent trip to Portland that I think is pretty cool...

https://vimeo.com/314484496

Tim

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#559106 - 10/02/19 10:15 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
PaulR Offline
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Registered: 01/10/16
Posts: 74
Loc: Nr Haverhill UK
Great video, makes me want another bike
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#572776 - 19/04/19 01:39 PM Re: Keeping out the drafts [Re: Tim W]
Bunny Offline

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Registered: 15/03/14
Posts: 730
Loc: Leicestershire, UK
Seems impossible to imagine with the lovely warm weather we’re experiencing today but last weekend in Shropshire was really cold! I wore my Ashley Watson Orkney Baffle for the first time in anger over the weekend and it was great. It was amazingly effective at keeping out the cold and so thin that I forgot I was wearing it. Just need more cold weather now! hide
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