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#546674 - 06/12/18 09:51 AM Come on Lady's wake up .
Jack The Lad Offline
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Registered: 12/04/11
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No I am not sexist . swmbo and I went shopping at a Durham s/market and popped into a pub for tea. It was dark raining slightly along with a light dull foggy mist . As we came down the hill into Durham city its rush hour roads packed . I spotted a small van going up the hill the other way , not a light on front or rear and a lady at the wheel redcard Did the shopping then into the pub for food ( a nice plateful ) Set off home another way out of Durham , only a few hundred yards from start and while looking in my rear mirror I spot a small car behind me ,up my back lady driver and no lights on . I flick 4 indicators switch , a few more yards and again , still nothing and again WOW she wakes up and puts her lights on . But not a flash to say thanks. Over the last few years I have noticed the quality of driving up here has sunk drastically . Also spotted a good few cars with dint's in any place its not a dodgem car or a weapon . Good manners on the road makes it a safer and more pleasurable journey but its fading away . I feel its time the government had a 5 or 10 year top up on drivers to keep them on there toes . Also its another money in the bank for the government if it saves one life then its worth it .

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#546675 - 06/12/18 10:00 AM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
meabh Offline

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Registered: 01/03/09
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Loc: southwest France
Jack,
I think there is a general lack of awareness. Misty mornings or dusk, silver/grey cars with no lights. Dark tree lined roads with the sun behind and again no lights.
Here in France one has the additional problem of cars approaching at night with only one headlamp working which so often suggests a motorcycle. We often wonder why it is that our local cops don't seem interested.

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#546676 - 06/12/18 10:06 AM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
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John, we have similar behaviour down here and the one eyed monster as Ian seems to find, the worst are the young women on their damn phones though normally with a car full of rugrats. We have no police force to talk of so no enforcement.
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#546678 - 06/12/18 10:18 AM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
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Part of the lights problem is the automatic setting. Most people leave their headlights in the automatic setting assuming the car will do everything for them and fail to understand that in that setting the lights invariably won’t switch on in fog or similar conditions. As Morgan drivers we are used to cars needing our input!
Don’t get me started on side lights when headlights should be used.

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#546683 - 06/12/18 10:47 AM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
SFG Offline

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Registered: 23/03/17
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I'm not sure the little wing sidelights achieve anything, other than as parking lights, as decoration, and to cover up corrosion caused by the bracket underneath. I suppose they're good enough reasons to have them, but surely not for driving?
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#546685 - 06/12/18 11:07 AM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
Alistair Offline
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Worse, most modern cars with daytime running lights don't have rear running lights. When the auto-lamps don't turn on then there is nothing on the back of the car at all.
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#546687 - 06/12/18 11:12 AM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Neptune]
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Originally Posted By Neptune
Part of the lights problem is the automatic setting. Most people leave their headlights in the automatic setting assuming the car will do everything for them and fail to understand that in that setting the lights invariably won’t switch on in fog or similar conditions. As Morgan drivers we are used to cars needing our input!
Don’t get me started on side lights when headlights should be used.


Interestingly our Polo GTI doesn't have the auto light function, which surprised me.
The other modern tweaks on some cars is that putting sidelights on doesn't light the panel lights, which is an incentive to go full lights.
Our Golf just pleases itself. It has auto lights, but the panel lights come and go seemingly at random.
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#546691 - 06/12/18 11:31 AM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
+8Rich Offline

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My last 2 Titanium Fiestas have had auto light function - but I soon switched it to manual as I couldn't keep up with changing headlight bulbs it was crazy the garages must love them.

Heathers Polo GTI is manual lighting.
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#546707 - 06/12/18 01:06 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
Stringers Best Mate Offline

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Registered: 16/10/13
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Ah, the benefits of LED headlights.. But no auto rears on the bimmer either.

The Roadster has DRL LED's around the circular headlight, but also has rears too, meaning grey days are covered. Not entirely sure if that's an MMC thing, or a previous owner, but it's nice to have.
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#546713 - 06/12/18 01:17 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: SFG]
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Registered: 11/01/11
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Originally Posted By SFG
I'm not sure the little wing sidelights achieve anything, other than as parking lights, as decoration, and to cover up corrosion caused by the bracket underneath. I suppose they're good enough reasons to have them, but surely not for driving?


I'm sure you are correct, indeed they are now not a standard fit as they don't conform to current regs. I have them just because they look nice.
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#546715 - 06/12/18 01:20 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: meabh]
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Richard,
I remember years ago fitting a suppressor to one of my cars because the radio would not work without it . They should have the cars made today with the same pre-system for phones if the engine is going the phone refuses to work, its easy to stop in a lay by or car park . Its not rocket science and will save lives. Of course you will never get rid of the idiots who park on m way hard shoulders etc but it will cut it down .

Originally Posted By meabh
Jack,
I think there is a general lack of awareness. Misty mornings or dusk, silver/grey cars with no lights. Dark tree lined roads with the sun behind and again no lights.
Here in France one has the additional problem of cars approaching at night with only one headlamp working which so often suggests a motorcycle. We often wonder why it is that our local cops don't seem interested.

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#546723 - 06/12/18 02:25 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
+8Rich Offline

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Originally Posted By Jack The Lad
Richard,
I remember years ago fitting a suppressor to one of my cars because the radio would not work without it . They should have the cars made today with the same pre-system for phones if the engine is going the phone refuses to work, its easy to stop in a lay by or car park . Its not rocket science and will save lives. Of course you will never get rid of the idiots who park on m way hard shoulders etc but it will cut it down .




I remember doing that too John, I like the idea of the phone cutting out when the engine starts up provided you are the driver and not a passenger, it should be easy enough with Bluetooth to recognise the drivers phone and shut it down or maybe call the police itself laugh2
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#546726 - 06/12/18 02:36 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Stringers Best Mate]
CooperMan Offline

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Registered: 19/11/15
Posts: 929
Loc: Yorkshire
Originally Posted By Stringers Best Mate
Ah, the benefits of LED headlights.. But no auto rears on the bimmer either.

The Roadster has DRL LED's around the circular headlight, but also has rears too, meaning grey days are covered. Not entirely sure if that's an MMC thing, or a previous owner, but it's nice to have.


The latest Roadsters have DRL's front & rear, that are active as soon as ignition is turned on, I assume it's because the control boxes are US sourced (Ford)
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#546731 - 06/12/18 03:16 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Stringers Best Mate]
Richard Wood Online   NoMood
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Registered: 03/02/16
Posts: 1710
Loc: East Harling, Norfolk UK
Originally Posted By Stringers Best Mate
Ah, the benefits of LED headlights.. But no auto rears on the bimmer either.

The Roadster has DRL LED's around the circular headlight, but also has rears too, meaning grey days are covered. Not entirely sure if that's an MMC thing, or a previous owner, but it's nice to have.


My Roadster collected just over 3 months ago had no DRL's, although as Jon suggests the sidelights front and rear came on with ignition. Even then the front ones were just paltry 5 watt bayonet filament bulbs. Have since fitted the popular ARV6 style DRL's with 12 LED sources in smiley format.
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#546733 - 06/12/18 03:25 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: +8Rich]
Jack The Lad Offline
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Registered: 12/04/11
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Richard. I think there are so many liars in society today that the only way for a phone only to work is if the engine is switched off. Its not heart breaking to stop we all do it for a pee . Why can we not make it licence removed for 10 year if caught and a 1000/- fine .

A best mate lost his young daughter due to bad driver so it eats at me .


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Originally Posted By +8Rich
Originally Posted By Jack The Lad
Richard,
I remember years ago fitting a suppressor to one of my cars because the radio would not work without it . They should have the cars made today with the same pre-system for phones if the engine is going the phone refuses to work, its easy to stop in a lay by or car park . Its not rocket science and will save lives. Of course you will never get rid of the idiots who park on m way hard shoulders etc but it will cut it down .




I remember doing that too John, I like the idea of the phone cutting out when the engine starts up provided you are the driver and not a passenger, it should be easy enough with Bluetooth to recognise the drivers phone and shut it down or maybe call the police itself laugh2

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#546852 - 07/12/18 01:03 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
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Registered: 20/02/16
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Loc: Buckinghamshire
Totally agree if it is not hands-free but most modern cars have bluetooth so calls can be made hands-free, would very hard to distinguish between the two and shut one down.

I also imagine there is no profit to be made and therefore no incentive.
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#546856 - 07/12/18 01:37 PM Re: Come on Lady's wake up . [Re: Jack The Lad]
SFG Offline

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Registered: 23/03/17
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Loc: South Oxfordshire
Can it be done by shrouding the car with a faraday cage? Works with lightning.
Provide a trailing cable that won't reach the drivers seat without having your head on the seat. Popular in Essex, that would be.
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