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#547149 - 09/12/18 10:55 AM Newbie from Hertfordshire!
pete757 Offline
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Hi all,

Firstly, what a great forum smile

Just about to take a new leap and direction in my motoring life after nearly 20 years of owing various Lotus models! This is being in the direction of a Morgan as it has the approval and excitement of the wife... the first time she has ever been 'interested' in a car!

Looking at a few options... because I very much want our first Morgan purchase to be our last Morgan purchase!

Love the Plus 4... but a bit down on power for me perhaps... Can some relatively 'affordable' mods be done to the engine to release a few more ponies?

The Roadster is lovely and fast... but the 'rev-hang' between gears for me really spoils the engine and 'spirited' driving. Has anyone sorted out an ECU mod to resolve this issue?

Either way we go, really looking forward to joining this happy fraternity and all the great stuff that Morgan ownership will bring!

Cheers, Pete.

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#547153 - 09/12/18 11:19 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
Richard Wood Offline
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Hi Pete,

Welcome to the forum.

Sounds like the Roadster is the car for you, issue aside. Have you driven the latest 5 link variant?

I can only optimistically suggest the rev hang issue may get sorted eventually, ARV6 solution aside which seems not to be available now anyway, it appears to vary from car to car. My experience is its something you can work with to a degree given familiarity.
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#547166 - 09/12/18 12:26 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Pete,

Hello and welcome to the crazy world of Morgans. As a serial Plus 4 owner, I think it's more what you can do with the available power, ( approx. 145bhp ) than the actual output. You can get a sports manifold and exhaust from Librands which should liberate around another 20bhp but why bother, just enjoy gentle power slides at speeds that plod doesn't notice.
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#547176 - 09/12/18 02:00 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Hi Pete,

Welcome! I'll repeat the advice I was given at the start -

Which Morgan to buy is slightly more involved that how much power you want. Each model has its own character. The key is to drive them all then decide. The plus 4 is a great allrounder but then the power of the Roadster must be pretty brilliant and scary at the same time. ( quite a few end up in fields having gone backwards at the wrong moment, as the drivers skills have failed to keep up with the engine)

Personally I love the lightweight and revvy Sigma engined 4/4. Great nimble handling and once a few mods/tweaks/improvements ave been done they are more akin to a posh Caterham. 40 plus MPG and low VED help to have real fun on a budget too.


But they are all wonderful. take your time - drive all types and you'll find it. Motoring heaven.


In my view they are all great fun and none of them is bad buy.
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#547197 - 09/12/18 04:52 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Richard Wood]
pete757 Offline
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Originally Posted By Richard Wood
Hi Pete,

Welcome to the forum.

Sounds like the Roadster is the car for you, issue aside. Have you driven the latest 5 link variant?

I can only optimistically suggest the rev hang issue may get sorted eventually, ARV6 solution aside which seems not to be available now anyway, it appears to vary from car to car. My experience is its something you can work with to a degree given familiarity.


Thanks for the replies guys.

Yes, driven the Roadster, like the power :>) It also seems very well suited as a long legged touring car which is what we want to use the car for as well. The rev hang really bothered me in the 3 cars I have driven (including the new 5 link version) but I can see how you could get used to it and drive around that.

It's probably going to be the way ahead actually...

I did like the idea, and sound (at 8,000 RPM!) of a Plus 4 Super Sport or an ARP4 but probably won't get past the wife on either!!

Looking forward to to what ever we get!!

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#547348 - 10/12/18 07:28 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Update!

Any thoughts on the 'older' 3.0L V6 Roadster that preceded the 3.7?

From what I have read, the engine is great. Light and further back in the chassis. The gearbox/engine I gather does not suffer from the 3.7 'rev hang'...?

Any thoughts much appreciated.

Cheers.

Pete.

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#547349 - 10/12/18 07:32 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
+8Rich Offline

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Pete,

JohnV6 and DaveW run these cars and John has many years Morgan experience.
I got my 1st Morgan a Plus8 14 years ago then swapped it in for a 4/4 Sport which was great fun for 24,000 mls but returned to Plus 8 ownership it's the flexibility and sound track for me.

I tried a couple of 3.0 V6's but found the clutch really heavy, this could just have been the cars I tried of course, no rev hang present on either.
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#547394 - 11/12/18 07:30 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Welcome Pete.
Enjoy your search.
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#548351 - 16/12/18 02:38 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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You can get Rev hang on a 3.0 Roadster as well ..... due to a heavy flywheel. Not sure it affects the earlier Series 1 model.
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#548357 - 16/12/18 02:56 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Jays]
John V6 Offline

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Originally Posted By Jays
You can get Rev hang on a 3.0 Roadster as well ..... due to a heavy flywheel. Not sure it affects the earlier Series 1 model.


I have never noticed it on mine John
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#548377 - 16/12/18 04:27 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: John V6]
+8Rich Offline

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I've never heard Dave mention it either John and he is justifiably proud of his OCD.
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#550757 - 29/12/18 09:05 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Update!

Firstly, hope one and all have had a great Christmas! :>)

I am still looking... but getting closer to finding the right car.

Several options...

I am wondering, how 'mileage sensitive' are the cars... is a car that is 2-3 years old with 22k miles a bad way to go... or is perhaps 22k miles on an 6 year old car ok?

I have also looked at 6 year old cars with 6k - 8k miles on them... how much more 'value' does that add?

Finally, is going for a new one with the '110 Anniversary' goodies, about £8k worth, going to hold onto it's value more?

Cheers,

Pete.

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#550762 - 29/12/18 09:34 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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22k after 3 years sounds ok. Too few miles could be problematic as things can seize etc. if not used. I’ve never worried about resale value.
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#550800 - 30/12/18 09:06 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Fox Terrier]
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Originally Posted By Fox Terrier
22k after 3 years sounds ok. Too few miles could be problematic as things can seize etc. if not used. I’ve never worried about resale value.


Completely agree.
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#550810 - 30/12/18 09:37 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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I’d be happy with any from brand new to old basket, each has a value and different benefits. The unique feature of a Morgan though, is that you can have a new one.

Don’t worry, you won’t lose any value with anything you buy, you arrived in the world with nothing and you’ll leave with nothing. laugh2

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#550813 - 30/12/18 09:52 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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22 k is not a lot. Cars not driven can be a source of many issues as things dry up & or seize.

Good luck with your choice.
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#550819 - 30/12/18 10:07 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: ewn]
Hamwich Offline

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Originally Posted By ewn
you arrived in the world with nothing and you’ll leave with nothing.


I arrived in this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left.
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#550822 - 30/12/18 10:13 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: ewn]
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Originally Posted By ewn
Don’t worry, you won’t lose any value with anything you buy, you arrived in the world with nothing and you’ll leave with nothing. laugh2


Ha! I am not worried about that... as my ex-wife has most of it now!

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#550831 - 30/12/18 10:48 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
I arrived in this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left.

Seasick Steve.
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#550836 - 30/12/18 11:03 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: BobtheTrain]
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A great line from seasick Steve, slightly puts me in mind of one of the many excellent anecdotes Billy Connolly came out with in Part 1 of the documentary about him the other night.

"When I was nominated for a knighthood, the woman interviewing me said, very nicely, ‘It’ll be strange for you, having a knighthood, coming from nothing.’ And I said, I don’t come from nothing. I come from something.”

For those who didn't see it (I think it was called Made in Scotland) on BBC2, I highly recommend you watch it on the iPlayer.
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#550838 - 30/12/18 11:08 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Originally Posted By pete757
Originally Posted By ewn
Don’t worry, you won’t lose any value with anything you buy, you arrived in the world with nothing and you’ll leave with nothing. laugh2


Ha! I am not worried about that... as my ex-wife has most of it now!


Now you’re just showing off, I could never afford an ex-wife no matter how hard I saved, that’s why I just spend it all now!

Disclaimer:
I love my wife dearly, this was just for comic effect.
I don’t really like 70’s style chauvinistic jokes. Pity really, I’m quite good at them.

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#550891 - 30/12/18 04:59 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Ewn..you might have just got away with that..you know she reads your posts !!!!
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#550926 - 30/12/18 07:21 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pandy]
Stringers Best Mate Offline

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Originally Posted By pandy
A great line from seasick Steve, slightly puts me in mind of one of the many excellent anecdotes Billy Connolly came out with in Part 1 of the documentary about him the other night.

"When I was nominated for a knighthood, the woman interviewing me said, very nicely, ‘It’ll be strange for you, having a knighthood, coming from nothing.’ And I said, I don’t come from nothing. I come from something.”

For those who didn't see it (I think it was called Made in Scotland) on BBC2, I highly recommend you watch it on the iPlayer.


I picked up on that one too.. A very inspirational man & I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of them.
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#550944 - 30/12/18 09:31 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
pete757 Offline
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LOL guys!!!

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#550947 - 30/12/18 10:03 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
Ewn..you might have just got away with that..you know she reads your posts !!!!


Nah, I’m safe enough, I’ve posted so much drivel, if she started looking, she’d give up or fall asleep long before she finds this post😀 laugh2

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#550971 - 31/12/18 08:26 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Hi PETE, I own a 2010 roadster just coming up to 30000km, i absolutely love it, ive driven the 3.7 roadster but i prefer mine for 2 simple reasons, im 6 ft 3 and the transmission tunnel in mine is "slimmer" than the 3.7 hence more comfortable to drive and secondly unless your an out and out boy racer the 220+ HP is more than enough useable power for both long distance cruising a bit of hooligan stuff if your that way inclined, and lets face it we are all occasional hooligans its just so much fun to blast past tin tops in 3rd gear and watch the look on their faces as you smile and wave going past them
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#550974 - 31/12/18 09:14 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
DaveW Offline
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The Series 1 Roadster is the best resolved of the Roadsters with a well designed ecu with no rev hang.

I wouldn't change mine for any of the other Roadsters or a classic Plus 8.

The rear end is hard with six leaves. I don't mind this but you can soften it if necessary.

But the S1 is rare. 2004 to 2006.
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#550978 - 31/12/18 09:34 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
John V6 Offline

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Pete,
the tunnel on the 3.7 I found a pain when I drove one. More power than my S1 but as Dave says I wouldn't change.
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#550982 - 31/12/18 10:42 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
Peter J Offline
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Pete,
I'm far more suspicious of low mileage cars than a well serviced and looked after high milage car:

My Roadster had covered about 28,000 miles when I sold it, age 5 years old.
My Plus 8 is rising 5 years old and has covered 38,000 miles.

Both cars have been mechanically totally trouble free. My view is that they thrive on regular use, neither were SORNED and are used through the winter.

Depreciation on a Morgan is, compared with any other car, trivial. Indeed, once the VAT has been "lost" they maintain value and can increase. But that isn't the point.

So, is it worth going for a 110 edition? In my view, If you can afford it, yes... because of the "extras" offered. There is "something" about picking up a brand new car....!!

Peter
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#551095 - 31/12/18 07:43 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Peter J]
tmg513 Offline
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Loc: Powick
Originally Posted By Peter J
Pete,
I'm far more suspicious of low mileage cars than a well serviced and looked after high milage car:

My Roadster had covered about 28,000 miles when I sold it, age 5 years old.
My Plus 8 is rising 5 years old and has covered 38,000 miles.

Both cars have been mechanically totally trouble free. My view is that they thrive on regular use, neither were SORNED and are used through the winter.

Depreciation on a Morgan is, compared with any other car, trivial. Indeed, once the VAT has been "lost" they maintain value and can increase. But that isn't the point.

So, is it worth going for a 110 edition? In my view, If you can afford it, yes... because of the "extras" offered. There is "something" about picking up a brand new car....!!

Peter

28,000 miles in 5 years is a low mileage car in my book.
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#551112 - 31/12/18 10:53 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
pete757 Offline
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Hi All!

Many thanks for the very interesting replies!

Choices...

1: 2011 Roadster with the Ford (non rev hang!) V6. 8,000 miles. Nice. £42k

2: 2012 Plus 4 'Supersports'... 24,000 miles. Lovely car, love the engine. Quite rare. Unknown history but comes with the 'race pack' with a set of well used seat belts!... £44k

3: 2016 Plus 4. Love the colour combo on this one... grey/scarlet. 21,000 miles. £39k

4: New 110 Anniversary. Spec in in the colour combo as above. New. £52k

They are my shortlist... I would be very happy with any guys!

Thoughts appreciated... I am 'stuck in neutral'!

Happy NY!

Pete.

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#551113 - 31/12/18 10:58 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Go for the colour. Grey/scarlet. Sounds great.
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#551114 - 31/12/18 11:02 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
Paul F Offline

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Loc: Costock, South Nottinghamshire...
Has the 2012 Supersports been raced?
If so, who repaired any panel damage ?

I would go for the colour. Might leave enough in the budget for some performance upgrades.
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#551116 - 31/12/18 11:26 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Indeed... the Supersports has an unknown history... I cannot get meaningful info about it either...

The Grey/Scarlet colour choice is indeed my favourite! Upgrades can be done :>)

A lot cheaper than a new one!

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#551117 - 31/12/18 11:27 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
pete757 Offline
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It's 20 mins to NYE!

True Morgan addicts reading this now! :>)

My wife and her next door neighbour are watching dodgy TV!...

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#551149 - 01/01/19 10:30 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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My choice from that list would be the roadster, had a plus 4 from that year, awfully set up ecu, with no info the plus ss could be costly in the future, buying new is great but be prepared for trips back to the dealer for warranty repairs.

What ever you choose, enjoy!
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#551323 - 02/01/19 09:54 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: BobtheTrain]
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Originally Posted By BobtheTrain
Originally Posted By Hamwich
I arrived in this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left.

Seasick Steve.

Just found out in my Christmas book of quotes that it was originally Groucho.
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#551466 - 03/01/19 12:24 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Roadster now sold! Not surprised really.. but not lamenting it!

PLus 4 SS still available... but seemingly reluctance to divulge previous history... that is rapidly becoming a 'lost sale'...

New car... too expensive.

That leaves the colour combo I like!

So... hope to update with some news shortly...

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#551513 - 03/01/19 11:43 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
Stringers Best Mate Offline

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There is a saying that your Morgan will choose you, not the other way around. You'll just...know...

Good hunting..!
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#551514 - 03/01/19 11:52 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Stringers Best Mate]
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Originally Posted By Stringers Best Mate
There is a saying that your Morgan will choose you, not the other way around. You'll just...know...


+1
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#551569 - 03/01/19 06:50 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Would be tempted with the SS , if someone wants to sell it they must give its history , someone on here must know .
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#551576 - 03/01/19 07:52 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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What's so special about Supersports ?
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#551591 - 03/01/19 09:48 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
What's so special about Supersports ?


Good question !
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#551607 - 03/01/19 11:12 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Lots!

200 BHP VVC engine with throttle bodies (that roar!)

CR gearbox, with lowered final drive ratio

Suspension mods

Only 60 made.

basically, a Plus 4 on steroids... though not as much as an ARP4...

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#551619 - 04/01/19 07:39 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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I really wanted one when I ordered my car but they would not do it with left hand drive or alternatively give me the tuned Mazda engine in a bespoke Plus 4.

They did however fit the SS exhaust to my car but it was problematic because the emissions were terrible. In an attempt to solve the problem Morgan paid for exhaust manifold wrap to be fitted but it really needed an ECU remap.

In the end I resolved the problem by fitting throttle bodies and an Omex ECU.

More recently the SS cat started to cease functioning 100% and I started to get exhaust smell in the car. I had a local manufacturer make me a larger diameter 300 cell cat with a high quality coating that starts to function at lower temperature (thanks to Heinz who also uses a 300 cell cat from the same manufacturer).

Sound is reduced slightly and is a deeper tone at cruising speeds (nice smile ) but still roars when I give it some welly drive
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#551638 - 04/01/19 09:31 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Pete 757

I was being naughty !!!!

This is mine...nearly had it a year...could bore the t*ts off anybody who would care to listen (and those who wouldn't!!!)
about the merits of the P4SS..the most complete Hooligan Morgan in my humble opinion !!!
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#551639 - 04/01/19 09:33 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Gambalunga]
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Sounds lovely!

If I end up with a P4, I will certainly want to do something like that as well... TB's sound lovely (miss my 45 DCOE Webers!)

Thanks guys :>)

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#551640 - 04/01/19 09:41 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
Pete 757

I was being naughty !!!!

This is mine...nearly had it a year...could bore the t*ts off anybody who would care to listen (and those who wouldn't!!!)
about the merits of the P4SS..the most complete Hooligan Morgan in my humble opinion !!!



AWESOME!

Love the cut-down screen... an interesting balance between the full and the aero screens!

You can bore me anytime... would love one!

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#551642 - 04/01/19 09:47 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Roofs are for girls !!!
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#551645 - 04/01/19 09:49 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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I have the aeroscreen option as well !!!


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#551648 - 04/01/19 10:19 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Have to say I prefer the shape and overall lines of the aero screens, Mr F..!!
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#551714 - 04/01/19 03:36 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Noted Mr Harris !!!!
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#551739 - 04/01/19 05:44 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Originally Posted By pete757
Lots!

200 BHP VVC engine with throttle bodies (that roar!)

CR gearbox, with lowered final drive ratio

Suspension mods

Only 60 made.

basically, a Plus 4 on steroids... though not as much as an ARP4...


Exactly , how could anyone resist !
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#552672 - 09/01/19 09:48 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Hi all!

Well, I could not resist!!! And finally pushed the button and have bought the Plus 4 SuperSports! :>)

https://krazyhorse.co.uk/collections/current-car-stock/products/morgan-plus-4-super-sport-raf-blue

Very excited now! :>) Even my wife approves... she just wants the white decal racing roundels removing :>)

The previous owner is on here from time to time, I had a long chat about the car and it's history :>)

Will collect next week... hoping for some dry roads.

More photos when I have her tucked up in my garage.

Looking forward to more on this great Morgan community.

Cheers,

Pete :>)


Edited by pete757 (09/01/19 09:49 AM)

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#552675 - 09/01/19 09:54 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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That looks like a great car.
Krazy horse are true petrol heads & a great dealer.
I am sure you will have lots of fun in that.
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#552720 - 09/01/19 12:57 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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That does look good.
Wishing you miles and miles of smiles.
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#552723 - 09/01/19 01:00 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Congratulations enjoy your new steed.
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#552732 - 09/01/19 02:16 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Wow! I love the racer look. Keep the roundels! Would it be cheeky to copy the 50th Anniversary Plus 8 look and add a large white number 4 to the mesh grille?
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#552740 - 09/01/19 02:33 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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That car is flippin' gorgeous. Well done sir!
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#552744 - 09/01/19 02:52 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Very nice

There is something about blue Morgans I quite like

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#552795 - 09/01/19 05:43 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Good Choice Sir !!!!

Part of an elite group of Gentlemen Hooligans !!!!
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#552802 - 09/01/19 05:47 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Thanks for your comments everyone! Yes, I am very pleased indeed :>

LOL, I look forward to now becoming a 'Gentlemen Hooligan'... instead of just a hooligan!

Will post more photos when I collect.

Cheers!

Peter.

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#552806 - 09/01/19 06:01 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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The combination of three eared spinners and black minilites looks really good. What a great specification that is smile
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#552810 - 09/01/19 06:11 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: Stewart S]
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Very nice

There is something about blue Morgans I quite like

ooo


I’d have to agree, best cure for winter blues and they’re at their best roaming under blue skies, although at the moment that might result in blue lips.

Amazing car, Pete and top marks for going with your heart and buying what’s probably the daftest but most exciting of your choices. I’m sure Krazy Horse will look after you well, I was very impressed with them when I visited them for a poke around.

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#552815 - 09/01/19 06:26 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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That looks like a fantastic car! Bet it sounds great too! Congratulations and hope the next few days pass quickly for until she arrives.
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#552827 - 09/01/19 07:04 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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It ticked many boxes... and my wife also approved after showing her far too many options! The only thing she does not like are the white roundels.. which can easily be removed and no 'piped' seats. For that, I think a trip to Allon White will be on the cards at some point!

I love the colour... RAF Blue... being an ex RAF pilot, I link with that well. The interior is very special... RPM gauge in from of the driver, love the steering wheel, studded hood, stop watches, map light etc!

The performance is great, sounds ever better with the TB's :>) I also figured because it's one of only 60 made, it would serve me well for future collectability...

Dan, at Krazy Horse has been very helpful. I first drove the car about 6 weeks ago on a very cold late November day (after Dan had taken me out in a 3 wheeler!). They also let me drive basically all they had on sale, so I was given a very complete 'education' into most of my options!

There is a good 'brochure' here...

https://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/mmc/downloads/brochures/+4_supersports__brochure.pdf

I am interested how many on here also have one! Looking forward to my new era of ownership of another classic British car, having owned Lotus's for the last 19 years!

Cheers,

Pete :>)

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#552843 - 09/01/19 08:07 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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That, sir, looks wonderful. thumbs

I really like the roundels, and 200 BHP with the other options, well, notworthy

Im sure you’ll have lots of fun in it.

Krazy Horse sound like a good dealer too.

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#552848 - 09/01/19 08:30 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Of the 60 Supersports made I have details of 38 including model number and colour.

Many went into Europe and they are used in various race series.

So far as I know your's is the only one with a spare wheel fitted.


Have fun !!!!



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#552857 - 09/01/19 08:50 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
Of the 60 Supersports made I have details of 38 including model number and colour.

Many went into Europe and they are used in various race series.

So far as I know your's is the only one with a spare wheel fitted.


Have fun !!!!







Great info! Many thanks.

So, how many are there in the UK? And how many of those on here? Perhaps I will start a +4 SS thread... Perhaps we can all get together!

Interesting about the spare wheel!

Is there a vented 'cover' available, so I could remove the spare wheel and put the cover in position... a bit like the 'dome' cover that the ARP4 offers?

Cheers,

Pete :>)

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#552865 - 09/01/19 09:30 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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That’s a fantastic car and a great colour. I often drift into Hertfordshire so maybe I’ll see you out in it someday.
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#552871 - 09/01/19 10:01 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Originally Posted By pete757
Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
Of the 60 Supersports made I have details of 38 including model number and colour.

Many went into Europe and they are used in various race series.

So far as I know your's is the only one with a spare wheel fitted.


Have fun !!!!







Great info! Many thanks.

So, how many are there in the UK? And how many of those on here? Perhaps I will start a +4 SS thread... Perhaps we can all get together!

Interesting about the spare wheel!

Is there a vented 'cover' available, so I could remove the spare wheel and put the cover in position... a bit like the 'dome' cover that the ARP4 offers?

Cheers,

Pete :>)






Excellent choice of Mog ! Would have been mine too , in fact I believe I did see that car at KH not long ago , they were excited to have it. Are you near to the KH area ?
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#552882 - 09/01/19 10:46 PM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: madmax]
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Cheers again all :>)

Yes, quite close to Bury, down the road about an hour near Stansted Airport.

I can sense a Spring gathering of +4SS happening... imagine all those TB's in unison!

Cheers,

Pete :>)

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#552899 - 10/01/19 04:38 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Wow you have the right model there sir!
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#552941 - 10/01/19 09:09 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Pete757

Not sure how many in Uk or indeed how many post on here.

Met some owners at Blenheim Palace event last year who were not aware of TalkMorgan ( I know !!!!..what a incomplete life !!!)

There was a vented cover on sale here a while ago..it was custom made by Steve Vernon I believe who produces Morgan panel work in the Malvern area.
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#552962 - 10/01/19 10:48 AM Re: Newbie from Hertfordshire! [Re: pete757]
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Thanks for the info... I will try to track him down!

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