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#549248 - 20/12/18 10:50 PM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: M3W55]
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Registered: 23/01/14
Posts: 883
Loc: O'Fallon, Missouri USA
Originally Posted By M3W55
That was a fine read. Interesting that the author considered the Ace sweet spot as 2-4000 RPM - the S&S on the M3W is more like 3750-4500.

Several people have written about the compromises Morgan made when it adapted the Ace. Some might regret a few of Pete Larsen's ideas that were left behind.


The S&S Wedge motor is a NON counterbalanced motor and the Harley motor that Pete used were the "B" motor with dual counterbalances. I've ridden several Softail Harleys, all with the "B" motors and you cannot feel a thing as they are REALLY smooth.

That alone would help the rpm range a bit and also Pete's motor were mainly 1450cc and some were the larger 1550cc motors.
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#549436 - 21/12/18 07:40 PM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: kankeL]
3Gs Offline
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Registered: 11/02/18
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Loc: Seattle, WA.
I found some more ACE pictures.

Even though the ACE is and inch longer, with an identical wheelbase, and a 1.5" narrower front track width it seems much smaller than the M3W. Yes, the ACE is furhter away from the camera in the first pic, so optically it will seem even smaller, but it sure seems much more compact than the M3W. And a pic with Pete himself enjoying ACE #13...




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#549723 - 23/12/18 02:45 AM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: kankeL]
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Registered: 17/11/12
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Loc: West Texas/Southern NM
The fact that Lewis, (the author of the ACE review) understands what a Pitts S2S is, qualifies him not only as a gifted writer, but a cognoscenti in the finer things of aviation.
I had been in contact with Pete Larsen when he was building ACE #13, and we had agreed on a price. By the time I blinked, it was gone to Malvern.
I did later buy my M3W from his dealership. It makes a good hangar mate for the Pitts biplane.

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#549750 - 23/12/18 09:40 AM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: kankeL]
bmgermany Online   embarrased
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Registered: 15/08/14
Posts: 399
Loc: Northern Germany
There seems to be such a large difference between the ACE an the M3W so I wonder "waht kinds of rights Morgan bought with the ACE"??
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#550283 - 26/12/18 09:32 PM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: kankeL]
3Gs Offline
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Dead chuffed, I am!

It turns out that I WAS a good boy this year and the wife was not too put out at the news of this addition to our stable!

I've now the title in my hand and ACE#10 is scheduled to be picked up next week for enclosed transport home...

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#550301 - 27/12/18 05:02 AM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: 3Gs]
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Registered: 12/08/09
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Loc: Aptos, CA
Originally Posted By 3Gs
Dead chuffed, I am!

It turns out that I WAS a good boy this year and the wife was not too put out at the news of this addition to our stable!

I've now the title in my hand and ACE#10 is scheduled to be picked up next week for enclosed transport home...





Congratulations! Please take a lot of photos!
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#550307 - 27/12/18 07:28 AM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: 3Gs]
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Registered: 12/04/11
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Loc: West Paris, France
Kudos.

That's fantastic. thumbs
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#550474 - 28/12/18 12:14 AM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: kankeL]
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Registered: 02/11/18
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Loc: CT, USA
Awesome! Glad to see it stay in the community.
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#550489 - 28/12/18 09:30 AM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: kankeL]
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Registered: 19/07/18
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Has anyone done a driven comparison between the Ace and the M3W?

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#550491 - 28/12/18 09:47 AM Re: Liberty ACE prototype for sale @ hemmings [Re: kankeL]
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Registered: 15/08/14
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Congrats! Nice looking car with interesting (perhaps "better")technique! oops
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