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#550235 - 26/12/18 04:31 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Hamwich]
pandy Offline

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Registered: 12/04/11
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Loc: West Paris, France
The 1600 definitely isn't weedy - but it does require quite enthusiastic input from the driver to keep things on the boil, which is why the 4/4 is such a fun car. The advice regarding the Mazda box models is sound; it's a much sweeter gearbox and the ratio of 5th gear is better suited to the car than in the Ford box.

One of the great things about the Morgan range is that the different engine options offer quite different driving experiences, so it's really down to what you want to get out of the car.

Personally (and I know I'm not alone in this) I find the 4/4 the most charming model in the Morgan range - light, simple, checkable and fun. Other people want more torque and power - that's great too, as there's the +4, Roadster and (older) V8.
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#550239 - 26/12/18 04:47 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 2173
Loc: Petersfield, Hampshire, UK
Originally Posted By Deejay
Sorry, Graham, putting my hands up! I only quickly looked at the write up and jumped to wrong conclusion when I saw reference to it being refitted with a standard 2010 plate prior to sale. Looking at pic, it already has a Brit reg. of course, albeit from the dark & distant past.

It isn't actually old, "SU" is the non-age-related series used by the DVLA. "SU" was originally allocated to a sub-division of Glasgow that by 1963, when year suffixes started, were still only on "BSU". Therefore any registration from "CSU1" onwards is actually modern.

Of course, the silver on black plates on this car are illegal, and I noticed the DVLA website doesn't recognise the actual registration so that is a bit of a mystery!

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#550247 - 26/12/18 05:41 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Bonesie]
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Registered: 28/07/17
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Loc: Cheshire
Only a personal point of view but I have recently bought my first Morgan. Before doing so I rented a 4/4 from a dealer for the weekend. Great car but it was more suited to winding country roads than motorways and dual carriageways.
I have now bought a Plus 4 and the difference is noticeable. The Plus 4 seems much more comfortable keeping up with modern traffic on 70mph roads. Again only a personal view but i am very happy with my decision and there is a noticable difference between the 1.6 and the 2.0.


Edited by Chilliblu (26/12/18 05:44 PM)
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#550248 - 26/12/18 05:52 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Hamwich]
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Registered: 27/02/10
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Personally I think the black wheels and lack of exterior door handles are major plus points. And sun visors are also completely unnecessary, a peaked cap is all that's needed.

The 4/4 is a great car, perfectly able to do anything you want of a Morgan.


Spot on! I've had a few over the years and for looks when kept plain and simple it's the best!!!
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#550251 - 26/12/18 06:09 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Bonesie]
Craig Jezz Offline

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Registered: 27/03/17
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Originally Posted By Bonesie
Forgive my ignorance, im a Morgan noob

Ive seen a car I like but its only a 1.6 ( though it doesn't say which maker. Ford Sigma ? )

Too weedy for touring/motorways/hills etc? Although I'm not expecting supercar performance I would like a car with some poke when I give it some beans.

Anyone know please ?

Its this car

https://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/dealer/us...-grey-1-6-2010/





This is the same car as mine Bonesie, it’s defiantly not weedy and suits me well, the cheapest mod if you want some extra horses is the ecu remap, it unlocks the engine, I had mine done by Cain at Wolf Performance for about £250 ish




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#550275 - 26/12/18 07:44 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Bonesie]
SFG Offline

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Registered: 23/03/17
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That looks like the recommendation then ; plus 4 and bigger for motorway work. 4/4 for chucking about.
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#550293 - 26/12/18 10:44 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Bonesie]
Paul F Offline

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Registered: 20/08/10
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Loc: Costock, South Nottinghamshire...
We have a 2014 4/4 and now have 24000 miles on the clock. It is more than happy on the motorway - you have to be prepared to change down to accelerate up hill on occasions if you have a touring load aboad. It is quite comfortable cruising at 80+ where the speed limit allows. Through the alps, it can easily keep up with bigger engined cars. I have to change gear a bit more often but with the Mazda gearbox, that is not a problem. Some of the earlier Sigma engined 4/4s with the Ford gearbox had a different axle ratio. I cannot comment on how those cars drive.

You need to drive the car and see if it feels right. The narrrower wings and narrowerer tyres make for a different driving experience - which I love.
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#550314 - 27/12/18 08:31 AM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Bonesie]
howard Offline
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Registered: 01/01/09
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Originally Posted By Bonesie
Forgive my ignorance, im a Morgan noob

Ive seen a car I like but its only a 1.6 ( though it doesn't say which maker. Ford Sigma ? )

Too weedy for touring/motorways/hills etc? Although I'm not expecting supercar performance I would like a car with some poke when I give it some beans.

Anyone know please ?

Its this car

https://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/dealer/us...-grey-1-6-2010/





Test drive it. Only you know how many Beanz you want / need.

Out there in the real world, the fastest car is the one with the daftest driver. Often a white van with an 18 year old yoof behind the wheel. I used to have a Ferrari but I still got overtaken many times by much less powerful machinery. Its noit the size - its what you do with it. Engine size of course.

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#550355 - 27/12/18 12:06 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Bonesie]
Paul F Offline

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Registered: 20/08/10
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Loc: Costock, South Nottinghamshire...
Just remembered - in 2014 when our car was new, the +4 did 0-60 just 0.5secs faster than the 4/4. The power difference is almost insignificant in the real world. The main difference is torque and therefore the driving style you end up with.
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#550365 - 27/12/18 01:09 PM Re: 1.6 ltr to weedy ? [Re: Paul F]
Craig Jezz Offline

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Registered: 27/03/17
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Loc: Oxon
Originally Posted By Paul F
Just remembered - in 2014 when our car was new, the +4 did 0-60 just 0.5secs faster than the 4/4. The power difference is almost insignificant in the real world. The main difference is torque and therefore the driving style you end up with.


So a simple remap on 4/4 sigma will bring it up to a standard plus four 0-60 time, if not faster !


Edited by Craig Jezz (27/12/18 01:10 PM)
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