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#550617 - 29/12/18 12:33 AM Is this a common leak?
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Just noticed a small oil leak and think it’s one of the 1/2”bolts that joins the front of the block to the rear. Love to post a picture but no idea how to on this forum. I also noticed what looks like a slice from a circular saw along the seam between the block halves... REAL strange. I’d greatly appreciate if somebody can email me (sobikes@verizon.net), letting me send you the pics for inclusion here.
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#550619 - 29/12/18 02:34 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
Hamwich Offline

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Posting pictures is very straightforward. The TalkMorgan image server is free for all TalkMorgan members to use.

The basic principle is that you upload an image from your computer to the image server, and then paste a link to the image into your posting. it's all explained here:

https://www.tm-img.com/page/ifu

Have a look and give us a shout if you get stuck.
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#550778 - 30/12/18 12:36 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Yeah...it’s Greek to me. It was simple when I first joined. Where’s the Talk Morgan image server?


Edited by KenShapiro (30/12/18 12:37 AM)
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#550779 - 30/12/18 12:46 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Let’s see if I git it. Here’s the strange “slice” that looks like it was done with an angle grinder:https://www.tm-img.com/image/YO3oK
https://www.tm-img.com/image/YOFm6
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#550781 - 30/12/18 01:35 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Hi Ken,

From the angle of the picture it looks like a piece of the crankcase broke away. Something definitely for the dealer. Is some of the seal extruding? Everything is fixable.

Best of luck with this, Ken.
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#550785 - 30/12/18 05:00 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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It actually looks like somebody put an angle grinder in there and I can’t figure out why that would happen. It’s definitely a cut, not broken off.
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#550787 - 30/12/18 06:29 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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#550888 - 30/12/18 04:53 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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I don't think the "angle grinder" cut in the crank case is a problem Ken. I have had a look at my engine and it has the same machining mark. It's a polished engine rather than a black one so maybe doesn't show up as well, I never noticed it until you mentioned it. I have no leaks from that area though.

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#550938 - 30/12/18 08:31 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: planenut]
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Originally Posted By planenut

I don't think the "angle grinder" cut in the crank case is a problem Ken. I have had a look at my engine and it has the same machining mark. It's a polished engine rather than a black one so maybe doesn't show up as well, I never noticed it until you mentioned it. I have no leaks from that area though.



Yeah...I wasn’t clear then. No leak there. The 1/2” bolt forward of thetecwas wet around the bolt. That “slice” just surprised me. You have it too? Strange. Wonder why.
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#550939 - 30/12/18 08:34 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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The leak was around the head of that (yellow arrow) bolt.

https://www.tm-img.com/image/YO3oK
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#551131 - 01/01/19 03:30 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Some smooth castings have slots cut into them like this to allow for a pry bar to be used to pop the two halves apart. This looks like a machined cut out on the one half only which would give the impression of a slot cut into the case.

I would guess that on the other side of the crankcase you'll find another similar cut in one half of the case so that the two pry bars are about 180 degrees apart for disassembly purposes.
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#551207 - 01/01/19 03:04 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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No cut like that on the other side. I would think they’d cast a cut in for prying. This is obviously sawed out.
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#551245 - 01/01/19 05:34 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Pretty sure I’ve now identified the source of the leak. Is this the sender for the oil pressure idiot light, or what?

https://www.tm-img.com/image/YhQxn
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#551249 - 01/01/19 05:45 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Ken. Look at your picture that you've uploaded. See at the bottom, there it says "embed codes"? That's where you get all the links to be able to embed the code to link to your picture for all sorts of applications, including Bulletin Board applications like TalkMorgan.

Click on 'Embed Codes' then scroll down the list until you see 'BBCode", it's the 6th one down in the 'Full Image' section. Hover your mouse over the right hand end of the link and a little 'copy' button appears. click on that and it will copy the link to your clipboard.

The all you have to do is paste it into your TalkMorgan message and it will make the image appear direct in your post. That way people don't have to click on the link to view the image:

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#551273 - 01/01/19 08:21 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Actually, no, lol. Using my phone and don’t see “embed codes”.
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#551276 - 01/01/19 08:35 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Originally Posted By KenShapiro
Actually, no, lol. Using my phone and don’t see “embed codes”.


Ah. I only ever use a proper computer. I'll have a look. Are you iPhone or Android?
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#551278 - 01/01/19 08:41 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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iPhone. My iMac finally became obsolete and I’ve been watching to see if I need to buy anew.
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#551286 - 01/01/19 09:36 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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[quote=KenShapiro]Pretty sure I’ve now identified the source of the leak. Is this the sender for the oil pressure idiot light, or what?

Per the parts book, it's the cam angle sensor. I believe this is used by the ECU for crank position, rpm, etc.

There is no seal shown in the parts book, but the sensor is cylindrical, so maybe an o-ring?


Edited by Bitsobrits (01/01/19 09:37 PM)
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#551289 - 01/01/19 10:29 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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iPhone. My iMac finally became obsolete and I’ve been watching to see if I need to buy anew.

Ken. I have Android but I think iPhone would show the same thing. When you display an image it usually shows full screen at first, if I "touch" on the image again it brings up a medium sized image and underneath it a lot of details. Down 3 lines is the word "About" and next to it is an up and down pointer. This is in fact the menu which, if you touch on the "About" brings up the options;"About", "Embed codes", and "Full info". If you touch on "Embed codes" you get a list of possible embed codes with a little "Copy" button on each one. Scroll down to "BBCode", touch on the "Copy" button and then you can paste the copied embed code directly in to your post.

Have fun
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#551294 - 01/01/19 10:58 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: Bitsobrits]
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Originally Posted By Bitsobrits
[quote=KenShapiro]Pretty sure I’ve now identified the source of the leak. Is this the sender for the oil pressure idiot light, or what?

Per the parts book, it's the cam angle sensor. I believe this is used by the ECU for crank position, rpm, etc.

There is no seal shown in the parts book, but the sensor is cylindrical, so maybe an o-ring?


Thanks Steve. A big help.
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#551458 - 02/01/19 10:14 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Let us know how it goes
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#551464 - 03/01/19 12:10 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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It’s an o ring on the crank position sensor. It’s not an S&S part but a Morgan one. Dealer has submitted a warrant claim.
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#551465 - 03/01/19 12:13 AM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: planenut]
KenShapiro Offline
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Originally Posted By planenut

I don't think the "angle grinder" cut in the crank case is a problem Ken. I have had a look at my engine and it has the same machining mark. It's a polished engine rather than a black one so maybe doesn't show up as well, I never noticed it until you mentioned it. I have no leaks from that area though.



I’m curious. I sent the pictures in an email to S&S and copied Morgan, asking for an explanation. I agree it’s not a “problem” but I’m curious. I’ll let ya’ll know what they say.
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#551575 - 03/01/19 07:50 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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See if you can find out the size. Probably a 10 cent part we can source locally
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#551609 - 03/01/19 11:28 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: Lance]
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Originally Posted By Lance
See if you can find out the size. Probably a 10 cent part we can source locally


Next time I get bored I’ll pop it out and let ya’ll know. Yeah... pretty sure it’s gonna be a common size o ring.
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#553279 - 11/01/19 05:42 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Been running her once a week lately so the leaking stopped.
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#553281 - 11/01/19 05:43 PM Re: Is this a common leak? [Re: KenShapiro]
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Originally Posted By KenShapiro
Originally Posted By planenut

I don't think the "angle grinder" cut in the crank case is a problem Ken. I have had a look at my engine and it has the same machining mark. It's a polished engine rather than a black one so maybe doesn't show up as well, I never noticed it until you mentioned it. I have no leaks from that area though.



I’m curious. I sent the pictures in an email to S&S and copied Morgan, asking for an explanation. I agree it’s not a “problem” but I’m curious. I’ll let ya’ll know what they say.


Just heard from S&S. It’s done intentionally to sus in splitting the case. Everybody should have it.
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