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#550774 - 29/12/18 10:56 PM SSL verses Rutherford?
Redfate Offline
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Registered: 30/01/18
Posts: 97
Loc: London England
Hi, I am considering up grading the front suspension on my 2009 4/4. The stock suspension clatters and bottoms-out over pot holes and sleeping policemen even at slow speeds. It handles fine but is just too soft.
I've seen adverts in the club mag for SSL suspension and also for Rutherford suspension via Tim Ayers at New Elms.
Does anyone have experience of the Rutherford set up? Or does anyone know which might be better for general road use?
Cheers
Paul
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2009 4/4 Sport in Red
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#550786 - 30/12/18 06:04 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
Steve19 Offline
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Registered: 11/02/18
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Loc: Dubai
Hi Paul, for what its worth i have a 2010 Roadster and i replaced the stock shocks with the Rutherford shocks and i have definitely noticed a marked improvement in overall handling, a simple upgrade well worth the money in my opinion
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#550789 - 30/12/18 07:42 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
dmh Offline

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Registered: 13/08/09
Posts: 590
Loc: Cheltenham - UK
I switched to Suplex and AVO shocks - a difference yes - but not sure it was worth £1300 ?

Good Luck
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#550790 - 30/12/18 08:17 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
Richard Wood Offline
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Registered: 03/02/16
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Loc: East Harling, Norfolk UK
Front AVO adjustables from Cain £174/pr inc. plus modest fitting charge. Huge positive difference.

Rutherford spec ones from HOE even cheaper.
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#550804 - 30/12/18 09:15 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
dmh Offline

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Registered: 13/08/09
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Loc: Cheltenham - UK
Better shock absorbers as indicated by Richard - might be the way to go - at least initially.
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#550805 - 30/12/18 09:16 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
John V6 Offline

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Registered: 21/07/07
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The MMC shocks suck & wear out fast.
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/ShockFailing.html
Replacing them is an easy home mechanic job.
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/shocks.html
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#550811 - 30/12/18 09:46 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
Redfate Offline
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Registered: 30/01/18
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Loc: London England
Thanks guys, that's interesting.
I hadn't really considered just changing the shocks on their own! It's well worth a try though isn't it.
The car drives well and handles most things well until it hits a bump or a pot hole so thinking about it I guess the springs can't be too bad?
I guess I should try just changing the shocks and then go further if that doesn't work.
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#550812 - 30/12/18 09:46 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
stefan s Offline

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Registered: 06/12/14
Posts: 579
Loc: Antwerpen Belgium
I switched to the Suplex kit and it is realy an big diffrent on our 2009 +4. The AR the +8 and our previous 4/4 did not have any problem with the original frontsuspension.

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#550825 - 30/12/18 10:32 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
MOG 615 Offline

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Registered: 24/09/14
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Loc: London
Paul

Although I am not totally familiar with that era 4/4 , many +4 owners of that period have improved front end bottoming out by fitting harder springs. (140 lbs from memory) These together with a front end rebuild incorporating hard chrome king pins and spirally grooved bushes certainly did the job. Someone like Cain at Wolf Performance is well versed in this and can offer advice and help (or do the job at reasonable cost)

The SSL front kit does improve the handling by taking the rebound spring out of the equation BUT it generally results in slightly "softer" (but very well damped and controlled) handling so perhaps not the route for you?

However in most cases the SSL front is a very worthwhile mod, it makes the car much better on bumpy surfaces , and the handling is "tighter" so I do heartily recommend it.
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#550829 - 30/12/18 10:41 AM Re: SSL verses Rutherford? [Re: Redfate]
sospan Offline
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Registered: 31/05/10
Posts: 6171
Loc: Llanelli
My rear Khonis failed so replacements bought. I got the AVO’s from Tim Ayers and replaced the fronts at the same time. A definite improvement after playing with the settings to get them right. Fronts are easy to replace. Rears easy too if you remove the rear shelf for access to the top mount.
I am contemplating options for the front.
Bearings and new springs on the front (Mulfab version). Do I go for SSL instead?
Undecided. I need to try a car with it fitted.
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