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#551846 - 05/01/19 10:31 AM I almost lost my sanity....
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choosing the colour of my new +4....

Finally settled on Jaguar opalescent silver blue ... (definitely)

The missus is no longer willing to talk about it anymore...

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#551848 - 05/01/19 10:41 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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#551849 - 05/01/19 10:41 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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I looked it up and conlude that you settled on a nice colour!
I think that over time one can get used to almost any colour and even appreciate it. I had the idea that red would be nice, but arrived at lancia midnight blue.

For the further education and entertainment of this forum, I think you need to share more details on the colour selection process and why your better half will not discuss it any more. Was she consulted, and you decided otherwise?

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#551855 - 05/01/19 11:24 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: BertR]
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Perhaps that is his swmbo choice Bert? grin2
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#551872 - 05/01/19 12:29 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Thats a gorgeous colour on a Morgan. If i were to buy one now it would be my colour of choice.

Black interior or dark blue?
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#551887 - 05/01/19 01:20 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Once my wife settled on a colour that I thought looked quite nice, I just went with the flow. Much less aggro and freed up my thinking time for the options list.
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#551945 - 05/01/19 05:53 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Our S2 (sorry it's not a trad) is in Jaguar Silverlake Blue and it looks brilliant in the sun and also when driving down lit streets at night. The reflections down the bonnet take on a lovely colour.



In some lights it looks silver and others the blue is quite strong.
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#551947 - 05/01/19 06:03 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Always happy with green for a Morgan , very traditional Mog colour .
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#552044 - 06/01/19 08:47 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Paul F]
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Originally Posted By Paul F
Once my wife settled on a colour that I thought looked quite nice, I just went with the flow. Much less aggro and freed up my thinking time for the options list.


That’s the process I used. Easier and quicker than pouring over colour charts and the Car Creator for hours for the same result.
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#552066 - 06/01/19 10:41 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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this is ostensibly my car.
As such it was up to me...
Yet there was underlying currents of pressure...
The final choice is a no compromise choice but it took a lot of soul surching and internet hours...
The missus tiered of my angst...
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#552118 - 06/01/19 01:42 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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What is slightly daft is that some who go to lots of trouble speccing their beloved Mog end up not driving it hardly at all and then it ends up on Pistonheads as a very low mileage car , why I wonder when they went to all that trouble ?
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#552155 - 06/01/19 02:58 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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For us it had to be either Orange or Yellow, but that was the last thing we decided before signing up.
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#552161 - 06/01/19 03:08 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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One of the difficulties is that there is no "Morgan colour".
If you buy a Ferrari red makes sense, silver for merc or BRG for Jag.
So with the Morgan it is literally up to you ...
And when you are sightly OCD it gets hectic...
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#552176 - 06/01/19 03:41 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: madmax]
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Originally Posted By madmax
What is slightly daft is that some who go to lots of trouble speccing their beloved Mog end up not driving it hardly at all and then it ends up on Pistonheads as a very low mileage car , why I wonder when they went to all that trouble ?


point taken... but I doubt that will be me... drove an 1989 MX5 for over 10 years as an only car and never had an issue with it...
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#552413 - 07/01/19 05:57 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Originally Posted By Carrotious
Originally Posted By madmax
What is slightly daft is that some who go to lots of trouble speccing their beloved Mog end up not driving it hardly at all and then it ends up on Pistonheads as a very low mileage car , why I wonder when they went to all that trouble ?


point taken... but I doubt that will be me... drove an 1989 MX5 for over 10 years as an only car and never had an issue with it...


Some time ago there was a thread discussing the factory asking the dealers to carry stock in order to ensure people had test drives etc. They built a finance program to support this.

My guess is that some of the cars you mention are probably these carts being sold on the end of their demo period? The dealers do tend to spec them quite nicely.

As mentioned being able to spec the cars to your own personal taste is great but being able to get a nice spec the same day for instant gratification at a good price will make quite a few people jump I suspect.
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#552504 - 08/01/19 08:38 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Alistair]
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but then why go to all the trouble of owning a morgan if you can't suffer through the whole process...
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#552537 - 08/01/19 01:03 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Originally Posted By Carrotious
but then why go to all the trouble of owning a morgan if you can't suffer through the whole process...


Money?? oops
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#552654 - 08/01/19 10:35 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Maybe because whatever the colour you will grow into it?
I have had 2 Morgans....both Corsa Red. Both used not new. Bought because of what they were not colour. If two similar cars were up for grabs then perhaps a non red would have won the vote.
Yes it is nice to spec your car but why agonise over the colour?
Same with the extra shiney bits.....do you REALLY NEED them?
The extra ££££ could be better spent on petrol!
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#552655 - 08/01/19 10:48 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: sospan]
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Originally Posted By sospan

Same with the extra shiney bits.....do you REALLY NEED them?


Er ...er.... er.....

But they are shiny

(I would be hopeless if I was choosing a factory made Mog, I don’t don’t how I would ever make a decision)
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#552708 - 09/01/19 11:51 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Originally Posted By sospan

Same with the extra shiney bits.....do you REALLY NEED them?


Er ...er.... er.....

But they are shiny

(I would be hopeless if I was choosing a factory made Mog, I don’t don’t how I would ever make a decision)



Mmmmmm Shiney Shiney spend love

Re factory decisions etc, I found it really hard to do.

Luckily at Oakmere when we went there was a Plus 4 in that looked (to me) great, so I kind of pointed at it and said “one like that!”.

Except of course it wasn’t quite like that by the end of them taking the order ...

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#552711 - 09/01/19 12:13 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Fat Wolfie]
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Originally Posted By Fat Wolfie
Mmmmmm Shiney Shiney spend love

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#552713 - 09/01/19 12:26 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: BobtheTrain]
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#552774 - 09/01/19 04:40 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Some experience of my first Morgan purchase. Today I can smile about it.

My first Morgan in 2005 was a distaster due to the freedom of choice. 40,000 colors etc. That sounds very appealing at first and for a few days you think you have the control of the universe.
The problem is that with 40,000 colors no preliminary decision is made. We all like the freedom of choice. But paradoxically, pre-filtering is an increase in the strong sense of choice. From a psychological point of view, we need a restrictive pre-selection in order to enjoy the good feeling of freedom of choice.

Moreover, this pre-selection must offer clearly distinguishable types. For example, if I buy an ice cream, I can choose between chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, mocha, etc. But there are 20 sorts of ice cream, and not 40,000.

40,000 colours means endless and undefined transitions, even if I know the car is supposed to be green, blue, or any other color. The incentive to want to become even more individual is simply too great. It is slightly comparable to an experiment that Pawlow did with dogs. He had presented a circle and an oval to the dogs. The circle meant reward and the oval meant punishment. Consequently the dogs chose the circle to be rewarded.
Then Pawlow had made the oval more and more like a circle. At some point the dogs could no longer distinguish between the two forms. They became hysterical and aggressive. They developed fear of making the wrong decision and were helpless as to whether what they saw and selected meant reward or punishment.
Today also known as cognitive dissonance. It can be similar when you have freedom over the choice of 40,000 colors. It is the treachery of the seamless shades that can make you jerk.

For others who like this experiences and who can make an easy and strong decision it is a huge benefit that Morgan still offers the great spread of colours..

Hardly anyone chooses their Morgan from these undefined transitions of so many colours. A lot of people may be guided by historical or current colours of many brands. But the next problem lurks: Does my favourite colour from brand XY go just as well with the Morgan? Could it be more unfavourable than the Maseratti or Mercedes or Jaguar?
Morgan somehow recognized the problem. With the Sports models came a range of Sports colours that was clear and even now they habe a selection of standard coloirs if you have a look at the 110 years models.

To go back to the story about our first Mog. Actually I just wanted dark green, maybe not the most original idea but so what. Also the demonstration car was conought green. The interior was sadle.
My wife suggested dark blue, that Mercedes night blue that many Morgan have. It was just a friendly suggestion, not a force. So I found it myself an interesting alternative and we ordered midnight blue. The interior should be dark reddish brown. But after a week I thought that Mercedes midnight blue might look too dark, classy and not sporty enough...
So the decision changed to indigo blue. Then I thought that reddish brown was too dark in the new combination and I changed the interior to mulberry. The car was ordered. Then I thought that stone would give a nice contrast with indigo. The dealer changed and confirmed the change.

When the car arrived it was mulberry. Not too much an issue. But the essence of the story is, that it was not an easy walk. And I learned not to confuse the factory in the future after an order was done. I can imagine that MMC was confronted with not only a few final order changes which leads to the todays fine regarding too late changes.

All later cars were not bespoked with the exception of the third Roadster, a Sport, where the choice of colours and combinations was minimized anyway as said above.
The second car was on display and we liked it. The P4SS was a no brainer in RAF blue and the current car was a demonstrator.
Therefore it is in my case a not too bad idea at least to see a car before you buy it.

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#552986 - 10/01/19 12:44 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Heinz]
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Originally Posted By Heinz
Some experience of my first Morgan purchase. Today I can smile about it.

I can imagine that MMC was confronted with not only a few final order changes which leads to the todays fine regarding too late changes.



Heinz, the factory now charges ££ for late changes to the spec, which I'm inclined to agree with, otherwise production (& purchasing) dept's would be in chaos
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#553027 - 10/01/19 04:06 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Jon, that is also my understanding. I didn't mean to say it as regrettable, but as a necessary reaction from MMC.

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#553031 - 10/01/19 04:19 PM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Heinz]
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I bought only used Morgans, so no decision to make!

I agree, too much choice is overwhelming, but I think Mercedes has reduced the colour choices a bit too far. At the moment it seems to be about 5 variations of grey, between silver and gunmetal, black, white, two blue and one red. Driving past a Mercedes showroom is just 50 Shades of Grey....
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#553141 - 11/01/19 05:11 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Now that the order has been placed, every day and in every way Im getting better and better...
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#553142 - 11/01/19 05:11 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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And opalescent silver blue sounds really cool
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#553146 - 11/01/19 07:29 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Originally Posted By Carrotious
And opalescent silver blue sounds really cool

thumbsAnd it looks really cool smile

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#553149 - 11/01/19 08:26 AM Re: I almost lost my sanity.... [Re: Carrotious]
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Originally Posted By Carrotious
One of the difficulties is that there is no "Morgan colour".
If you buy a Ferrari red makes sense, silver for merc or BRG for Jag.
So with the Morgan it is literally up to you ...
And when you are sightly OCD it gets hectic...



Surely its one of 5 or 6 shades of green ?
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