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#552246 - 06/01/19 07:38 PM Paint protection
Gary Fairhurst Offline
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Anyone got experience of having the transparent paint protection sheets fitted to the forward facing panels on an older Morgan. Considering having it done to a 93 +4 after some major resprayed work. Really not sure how it will look. Are the edges of the sheets very visible?

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#552253 - 06/01/19 07:55 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Rob Thornton Offline

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The paintwork on my Royal Ivory 2001 +8 was so good when I bought it that I invested in the protection film at the time of purchase. The only time that you can see it - and on close inspection at that - is after a wet and dirty run when an almost invisible amount of dirt can be detected on the upper horizontal edges. Personally, I think that it was a wise investment judging by the amount of dirt that acrues on the surfaces it is applied to, particularly over the winter months. I understand that most upper end performance cars now come with this as standard but I stand to be corrected.
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#552265 - 06/01/19 08:22 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
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I have protective film on both rear wings of my 1980 +8. Prior to its last respray both the rear wings had many stone chips on the surface adjacent to the doors. It's stopped the stone chips. It's virtually invisible. I will post a photo tomorrow.
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#552275 - 06/01/19 09:04 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Craig Jezz Offline

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I have applied PPF to:
Rear wheel arches
Running boards
Front wings
Around the Cowl
Under the headlights (cut around indicators)
Front vallence

I think it shows more on certain colours like red metallics etc...

As Rob said, you can only see the PPF (edges) when close up. It may visible on my car in images below ?









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#552303 - 07/01/19 12:32 AM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Esprit Offline
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Take a look at the 'Xpel' PPF on the Berrybrook Morgan website. We opted for this because it is said to be self healing.
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#552349 - 07/01/19 12:44 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
RJW Offline

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I have had the film protection on my claret red plus 4 from new. You can see the edges of the film if you look hard but this is not intrusive and I’m pleased with the protection this has provided now for six years.
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#552395 - 07/01/19 04:37 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Neilda Offline
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I have it on my Sand coloured +8... you can't see it.

I had it on a yellow sports car and it was awful - you could see it very easily. I think it was badly applied.

In my relatively limited experience of it, I would say - it's a bit colour dependent. Secondly if it has to fold anywhere, it's going to collect dust. My 8 is pretty much flat panels of the stuff and therefore there are no edges to catch dirt.

I wonder sometimes about the point of waxing the protected paint - there doesn't seem much point. If the paint underneath is spotless and waxed, then I guess that's enough.
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#552416 - 07/01/19 06:09 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
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I have paint protection film on my Aero Plus 8. The car is a dark colour (Jaguar gunmetal grey) and the film is only really noticeable if you use a polish that dries white until you buff it - if you do not polish it well enough it leaves a white line where the film ends.

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#552447 - 07/01/19 08:31 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
CooperMan Offline

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Hat's off to Craig for doing it DIY, it's an acquired skill that needs great care

Gary I would say it's a no brainer to protect that expensive re-spray, my previous Roadster had it from new by its first owner and after 50k miles it still looked like new in comparison to similar age cars which were peppered with stone chips
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#552457 - 07/01/19 09:13 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
britmog Offline
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I live 2.5 miles up a dirt/gravel steep mountain road that means after 50ft I am driving through clouds of dust and stones being thrown up. I have protective film on at the exposed stone hitting points, my +8 is Connaught Green. When everything is covered in dust you can't see any lines, etc, when freshly clean you can't see anything either. When I polish it does leave a line on the edges which I use a tooth pick to clear away. Certainly protects the paint work and driver cleans up pretty well too.
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#552460 - 07/01/19 09:47 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: britmog]
MDS61 Offline
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To be fair PPF is very good - however, it has now been overtaken by this type of product:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHjBzbs8FCQ

As it sprayed on it has no edges like PPF and from what I am hearing from the industry the finish is better (and longer lasting) than the actual paint!
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#552473 - 07/01/19 10:54 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: CooperMan]
Craig Jezz Offline

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Originally Posted By CooperMan
Hat's off to Craig for doing it DIY, it's an acquired skill that needs great care


Thanks for the kind words Jon, it’s a lot easier to apply to the flat areas like the running boards etc, the front wheel arches can be very tricky, this has taken me a few attempts in the past...

The trick is to use plenty of water (sprayed) mixed with a tiny (I mean tiny) amount of baby shampoo...And don’t be afraid to completely soak the adhesive side of the PPF as you are peeling the backing paper off.
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#552524 - 08/01/19 12:05 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Carrotious Offline
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which brings me onto what is the "Paint protection film" that costs £610.75 from the Morgan Factory?
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#552548 - 08/01/19 03:02 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Alistair Offline
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In many cases the companies (3M etc) will offer a pre-cut pack of segments that cover the main areas. I suspect it will be a package like this, check which areas it covers, some are just front panels, it might be worth covering the lower edges of the rear wings as well, mine have a few marks where they have saved the paint.

As an example - http://www.chipguard.co.uk/car-protection/morgan.html
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#552550 - 08/01/19 03:18 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: CooperMan]
DaveW Offline
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Originally Posted By CooperMan
Hat's off to Craig for doing it DIY, it's an acquired skill that needs great care

Gary I would say it's a no brainer to protect that expensive re-spray, my previous Roadster had it from new by its first owner and after 50k miles it still looked like new in comparison to similar age cars which were peppered with stone chips


You need to be brave to tackle this job. I've done small areas, but I wouldn't try a big panel, especially curved. This year I intend to add it along the top edge of the rear panel where the easy up hood seal rubs the paint. I just haven't been able to get a clear run at it yet........
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#552566 - 08/01/19 05:18 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Peter J Offline
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Tarka has the Morgan applied film, it works well on the front, but it is less successful on the running boards as it can be easily scuffed by shoes getting in and out.

The front is marked in places, so obviously working, but the Ngenco stuff looks good. I wonder how much it costs! Has anyone any experience of it?
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#552734 - 09/01/19 02:21 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Carrotious]
CooperMan Offline

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Originally Posted By Carrotious
which brings me onto what is the "Paint protection film" that costs £610.75 from the Morgan Factory?


Carrotious, this is what you get...







By coincidence, during our last visit to the Factory last year to see our Roadster in build, we just caught it in the PDI bay having the PP film applied, it took two of them about 2 hrs and they were specifically visiting that day to do a batch of finished cars
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#553103 - 10/01/19 07:51 PM Re: Paint protection [Re: Gary Fairhurst]
Gary Fairhurst Offline
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Loc: North Yorkshire
Many thanks for all your comments. I am in the process of arranging for a contact of Beamish Morgan to fit it for me. Will update once it is complete.

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