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#552386 - 07/01/19 04:00 PM Tyre advice/reminders please
nick w Offline

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Registered: 31/03/09
Posts: 2008
Today I spun the back wheels in 3rd gear......ok I used to do it in my roadster regularly, but I'm talking about my 4/4!
So I have to accept that my continentals are 4 years old and whilst they show no signs of wear, they have absolutely no grip on a damp surface.
I remember talk of vredsteins, yokos and avons.....did we ever reach a consensus of what's the best tyre on a 1600 4/4 (2014)?
Any comments appreciated.
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#552388 - 07/01/19 04:04 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Hamwich Offline

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Registered: 28/04/08
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Loc: Gloucestershire, UK
I'm on my second set of Vredestein Sprint Classics. I will choose them again the next time I change. Loads of grip, controllable breakaway, good in the wet. For a 4/4 I reckon they are the dog's danglies.
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#552389 - 07/01/19 04:08 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Tresco Offline
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Registered: 13/11/16
Posts: 66
Loc: Thatcham
I changed ours to vredsteins T trac2 last year but it was at the end of the year so haven't done much driving with them yet so can't really say too much about them but them seem ok. There wasn't much choice about from tyre fitters so got them online and had them fitted.


Edited by Tresco (07/01/19 04:10 PM)
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#552399 - 07/01/19 04:48 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
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I had Conti's on my 2L 4/4 when I purchased it in the mid 1980s had others on over the years . Popped Conti's back on around the end of summer last year . Let the mog garage it was at try it out . Then took it to certain roads I know. Held the roads like a jocks hand on his wallet and I did stretch it . Maybe you are expecting your 4/4 to do what the roadster did and down grading the ride in your 4/4 because of this.

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#552403 - 07/01/19 05:01 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
howard Offline
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Cant remember which car mag it was in ( likely Car, maybe EVO) but there recently was a comparative test of tyres done scientifically. Sod all difference between the major brands. I think that Goodyear came out best, possibly Michelin but one of the two.

I'll look it up if you want

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#552410 - 07/01/19 05:44 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
nick w Offline

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Registered: 31/03/09
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Thanks Howard, but don't worry. I'm more interested in the comments from owners who've actually fitted alternatives and what they think of them. Thanks for the thought though.
Nick

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#552414 - 07/01/19 05:58 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
IvorMog Offline

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Registered: 17/04/17
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Loc: Staffordshire
FWIW the European tyre labelling does give an indication of the relative performance.

On a scale of A (best) to F (worst) the Conti has an E rating for wet grip whereas the Vredestein T-Trac2 has a wet grip rating of B.

The Vredestein Sprint Classic is exempt from tyre labelling as it's designed for Pre 1990 Classic Cars.

There is also a Dunlop Sport which I think has a B wet grip rating.

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#552423 - 07/01/19 06:49 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: Hamwich]
P Dron Offline

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Originally Posted By Hamwich
I'm on my second set of Vredestein Sprint Classics. I will choose them again the next time I change. Loads of grip, controllable breakaway, good in the wet. For a 4/4 I reckon they are the dog's danglies.


I agree entirely. The standard Continentals are OK on a dry surface, but when the road is even slightly damp, you go directly from low grip to no grip. The Vredesteins give more feel and allow more reaction time.

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#552430 - 07/01/19 07:08 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Heinz Offline

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Registered: 07/09/09
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Loc: Cologne, Germany
I have no experiences with the Vredestein sprint classic. In this forum most are happy with them, in other forums concerning other cars and sizes the experiences are more mixed.

In spring I will purchase my second set of T Trac2. I was totally satisfied and have them since 3 plus years and almost 48000 km wear. They are still good in the dry but they have significant wear so in the wet they have seen better days and regarding the price I must not wait any longer.

I‘m curious about the Dunlop sport classic because they have a good reputation since their launch 2 years ago, at least tested in other sizes.

But in Germany a new TTrac2 costs 48€ and so I skip the more classic look. The Dunlop sport classic costs 145€ one piece.
And from the side side view the TTrac2 looks also very clean smooth and classic.

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#552432 - 07/01/19 07:10 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
PaulJ Offline

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Registered: 16/10/11
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Loc: Somerset, UK
Frankly I don't know why anyone running a light, low mileage car would ever consider a standard 'road' tyre, sure you will get 15000 - 20000 miles out of it, but it will be hard within 2 -3 years, 4 at the outside and probably less than half worn.

Why not go straight for a good road legal 'track day' tyre like the Avon ZZS, soft, grippy and will only last around 8,000 - 10,000 miles if you drive gently, but, hell, that's likely to be 3 years use for the average Morgan owner, 2 years for someone who uses their car a fair bit, but the grip in wet and dry conditions will be outstanding.

My car arrived with Yoko Advan A048's fitted and they are so sticky I can't kick out the back end on a roundabout, even with 225bhp, and after 7000 miles the wear is negligable.

Have a look and think seriously about it.
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