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#552435 - 07/01/19 07:25 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: PaulJ]
Hamwich Online   content

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Registered: 28/04/08
Posts: 6966
Loc: Gloucestershire, UK
Originally Posted By PaulJ
Frankly I don't know why anyone running a light, low mileage car would ever consider a standard 'road' tyre, sure you will get 15000 - 20000 miles out of it, but it will be hard within 2 -3 years, 4 at the outside and probably less than half worn.

Why not go straight for a good road legal 'track day' tyre like the Avon ZZS, soft, grippy and will only last around 8,000 - 10,000 miles if you drive gently, but, hell, that's likely to be 3 years use for the average Morgan owner, 2 years for someone who uses their car a fair bit, but the grip in wet and dry conditions will be outstanding.

My car arrived with Yoko Advan A048's fitted and they are so sticky I can't kick out the back end on a roundabout, even with 225bhp, and after 7000 miles the wear is negligable.

Have a look and think seriously about it.


Fair point, but:

(a) You can't get tyres like ZZS in 165/16
and
(b) surely the whole point is to be able to slide the back end when you want to, otherwise where's the fun?
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#552441 - 07/01/19 07:57 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
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Registered: 20/04/14
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Loc: Dorset, UK
Had my allseason vredestein on my smart roadster chattering my abs today slowing for a roundabout.

I reckon its the greasey film left by the gritters at the moment.

So summer tyres on your pride and joy should be left in the garage if you have a heavy boot.
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#552476 - 07/01/19 11:15 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: Hamwich]
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Spot on Tim my shooting about left me a good while ago to many bloody idiots on the road these days who see a mog as a thing to race .

Why not go straight for a good road legal 'track day' tyre like the Avon ZZS, soft, grippy and will only last around 8,000 - 10,000 miles if you drive gently, but, hell, that's likely to be 3 years use for the average Morgan owner, 2 years for someone who uses their car a fair bit, but the grip in wet and dry conditions will be outstanding.

My car arrived with Yoko Advan A048's fitted and they are so sticky I can't kick out the back end on a roundabout, even with 225bhp, and after 7000 miles the wear is negligable.

Have a look and think seriously about it. [/quote]

Fair point, but:

(a) You can't get tyres like ZZS in 165/16
and
(b) surely the whole point is to be able to slide the back end when you want to, otherwise where's the fun? [/quote]

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#552500 - 08/01/19 08:29 AM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
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Registered: 28/03/15
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Loc: Vienna Austria
Going from Continental (admittedly old and hard) to Vredestein classics dramatically improved grip in both wet and dry. My racing driver friend who did 3 laps of Le Mans in the old Mog said they were excellent.
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#552536 - 08/01/19 12:59 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
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Registered: 15/08/14
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I changed my 3 years old Contis with TT2.
A dramatic improvement on wet and dry roads!

Much mor grip on dry roads and on wet! And I have to say much better than new Contis!


Edited by bmgermany (08/01/19 01:00 PM)
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#552562 - 08/01/19 05:02 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: Hamwich]
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Registered: 13/05/08
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Loc: Nth. Bucks, England
Originally Posted By Hamwich
I'm on my second set of Vredestein Sprint Classics. I will choose them again the next time I change. Loads of grip, controllable breakaway, good in the wet. For a 4/4 I reckon they are the dog's danglies.


Love my Toyo Proxes T1-R, not sure what size you need and whether they do them but I have 16" rims and 205/55 16s.
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#552563 - 08/01/19 05:07 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
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Registered: 31/03/09
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Thanks very much gentlemen. Looks like Vreds for me then.
My trouble now is finding a local tyre fitter who can handle wire wheels......one place here looked so blank, I don't think he'd ever seen a car with them before!
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#552565 - 08/01/19 05:16 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Stephen888 Offline
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Registered: 22/03/11
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Loc: Cambridge UK
And I love my Toyo Proxes. 27k miles in 4 years and still loads of tread left. But no track or sprinting just road work.
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#552569 - 08/01/19 05:32 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Peter J Online   crying
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Registered: 13/08/13
Posts: 10762
Loc: Salisbury, UK
Nick,

the Plus 8 had Avon ZZ3s on when I got it. OK grip in the dry, very hard to get hot, even on Castle Combe track. In the wet...grip, what grip.

I fitted Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. the difference is as night and day. Better grip, both wet and dry, the car feels more controlled, certainly at the front so handling is better. Last, they are much quieter on all road surfaces.
I have them on the M140 and when the C43 needs new tyres I'll fit them.
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#552570 - 08/01/19 05:34 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Peter J Online   crying
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Originally Posted By nick w
Thanks very much gentlemen. Looks like Vreds for me then.
My trouble now is finding a local tyre fitter who can handle wire wheels......one place here looked so blank, I don't think he'd ever seen a car with them before!
Nick


This is an important issue: the fitter has to have the correct set of "cones" to put the wire wheel on the balance machine. Very few tyre fitters have this, so shopping around will be essential...or get you Morgan dealer to do it, they all have the machine and the knowledge...
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