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#552791 - 09/01/19 05:38 PM Plus 8 35th Anniversary model
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I've arranged to look at a Plus 8 Anniversary (35th year) with a view to purchase -(my first Morgan) - and wonder if anybody knows to what numbers production was limited.
Any other comments or advice before I view would be most welcome.

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#552797 - 09/01/19 05:44 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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At the outset 100 were planned but I've not seen a final production figure.

Advise - buy it and enjoy it lots.
Take someone with you to look at it if you are new to Morgan's.

p.s. If it happens to be the one at Williams Henry is a really nice guy to do business with, I bought my new 2009 4/4 Sport from him when they were Bristol based.
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#552801 - 09/01/19 05:47 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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I popped into Crazy Horse in Bury St Edmunds today and they had one there. I thought I saw the umber written on the back as 35th of 250.

Could well be wrong though!

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#552803 - 09/01/19 05:49 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Culminator]
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They maybe reviewed the initial 100 by the sound of it Culminator.
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#552804 - 09/01/19 06:00 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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One tip - compare it to a slightly earlier +8 circa 2000
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#552809 - 09/01/19 06:07 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Culminator]
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Just to clarify, I'm talking about the 35th anniversary model (MY2003/4) and not the current Plus 8 run-out model
Many thanks for replies to date.

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#552811 - 09/01/19 06:16 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Yep - Morgan instigated cost control mesasures between 2000 and the 35th run out models. There are a number of variations over quality, application and use of materials/parts.

Just worth checking the Anniversary model your looking at is indeed the limited edition step up in comparison to a run of the mill millennial plus 8.
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#552816 - 09/01/19 06:27 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: cerealsurfer]
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So all else being equal are you saying that a slightly earlier (<2000) could be a better proposition?

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#552823 - 09/01/19 06:44 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Oops, sorry, I wrongly thought of the 50th anniversary model. Ignore my previous comment then!

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#552825 - 09/01/19 06:51 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Originally Posted By jong
So all else being equal are you saying that a slightly earlier (<2000) could be a better proposition?

Depends on your taste but :nods:
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#552828 - 09/01/19 07:04 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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I was looking at one on the Williams website today so I’m guessing that’s the one

Love the colour scheme

4 litre in a trad chassis!

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#552829 - 09/01/19 07:24 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Originally Posted By jong
I've arranged to look at a Plus 8 Anniversary (35th year) with a view to purchase -(my first Morgan) - and wonder if anybody knows to what numbers production was limited.
Any other comments or advice before I view would be most welcome.


These anniversary plus 8's are rather overpriced compared to the previous new plus 8 , around £40k more and what do you get for that ? Exclusivity ? If there are 100 then not that exclusive .IMHO.
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#552832 - 09/01/19 07:29 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: madmax]
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Originally Posted By madmax
Originally Posted By jong
I've arranged to look at a Plus 8 Anniversary (35th year) with a view to purchase -(my first Morgan) - and wonder if anybody knows to what numbers production was limited.
Any other comments or advice before I view would be most welcome.


These anniversary plus 8's are rather overpriced compared to the previous new plus 8 , around £40k more and what do you get for that ? Exclusivity ? If there are 100 then not that exclusive .IMHO.


The 35 anniversary models were 2003 Steve
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#552833 - 09/01/19 07:35 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: madmax]
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Originally Posted By madmax
Originally Posted By jong
I've arranged to look at a Plus 8 Anniversary (35th year) with a view to purchase -(my first Morgan) - and wonder if anybody knows to what numbers production was limited.
Any other comments or advice before I view would be most welcome.


These anniversary plus 8's are rather overpriced compared to the previous new plus 8 , around £40k more and what do you get for that ? Exclusivity ? If there are 100 then not that exclusive .IMHO.


But didn't the later Plus 8 have the Aero based chassis instead of the Trad chassis?

I'm a 4 cylinder man so excuse this if it's stupid.
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#552834 - 09/01/19 07:38 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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These were the last years of the trad chassied Rover V8 engined +8.

At the end of the life Morgan did a special edition....

There are a couple of Swanmog members with the 2000/2001 non Aniversary model i’m Sure they would show you if you are going to Williams....

To be fair it’s all about personal taste and what you want/like - one is not better than another per se. It will just help position what you decide you like and what you might pay more for.
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#552837 - 09/01/19 07:50 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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For clarity there were 50 of the 50th Anniversary Plus 8s. All built in 2018.
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#552839 - 09/01/19 07:55 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Wirewheel]
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Well, 50 for purchase. The first one, of 51 (number 000 of 050), is a factory owned car.
Sorry Ian, I shall get out of pedant mode laugh2
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#552847 - 09/01/19 08:28 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Wirewheel]
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....and the 35th Anniversary ones?

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#552853 - 09/01/19 08:34 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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#552869 - 09/01/19 09:54 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Originally Posted By madmax
Originally Posted By jong
I've arranged to look at a Plus 8 Anniversary (35th year) with a view to purchase -(my first Morgan) - and wonder if anybody knows to what numbers production was limited.
Any other comments or advice before I view would be most welcome.


These anniversary plus 8's are rather overpriced compared to the previous new plus 8 , around £40k more and what do you get for that ? Exclusivity ? If there are 100 then not that exclusive .IMHO.


The 35 anniversary models were 2003 Steve


Ah ! Getting confused with the last new plus 8's sorry !
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#552898 - 10/01/19 04:34 AM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Have seen quite a number of the 35th anniversary models here in Auckland, in fact more than I saw at Mog 18 All morgans day and LMC18, so maybe the factory knocked a few extra export models out.
Maybe I agree with cerealsurfer too ....
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#552958 - 10/01/19 10:22 AM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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If you can find one, the Le Mans edition is really the one to go for. They come complete with the iconic white hard top and are all painted green. I think Morgan did 50 each of the 4 and 8 cylinder ones.
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#552968 - 10/01/19 11:41 AM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: waikiore]
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Originally Posted By waikiore
Have seen quite a number of the 35th anniversary models here in Auckland, in fact more than I saw at Mog 18 All morgans day and LMC18, so maybe the factory knocked a few extra export models out.
Maybe I agree with cerealsurfer too ....


I think most will have gone abroad

Mainly the USA I’m guessing as they could still sell the Plus 8 over there at that time
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#552977 - 10/01/19 12:20 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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All 35th Anniversary cars use the 4.0 River V8 with the rather complex GEMS ignition and fuelling control. This does give better fuel consumption and slightly more torque, but it is quite complex and is prone to electronic gremlins.

The earlier long door cars 1997 to 2002 use the 3.9 River V8 engine with the less complex “Hotwire” system controlling the fuelling only, and a distributor for ignition. This is a much simpler system and arguably is better suited to the Morgan application.

However as is always the case I would still buy any Morgan based on condition. Beware of cars that have too low mileage. These cars need exercise, not years in a garage.
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#553047 - 10/01/19 04:54 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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I have driven the 3.9 V8 back to back with a 4.0. They seemed the same to drive. However: Complexity? On this I am not qualified to comment. "GOMOG" has information on this.
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#553064 - 10/01/19 05:38 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Well, 50 for purchase. The first one, of 51 (number 000 of 050), is a factory owned car.
Sorry Ian, I shall get out of pedant mode laugh2


Clash of the Titans???
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#553074 - 10/01/19 06:30 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: DaveW]
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Tour guide banter - we usually do it over a cuppa in the Visitors' Centre. grin2
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#553076 - 10/01/19 06:33 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Originally Posted By jong
I've arranged to look at a Plus 8 Anniversary (35th year) with a view to purchase -(my first Morgan) - and wonder if anybody knows to what numbers production was limited.
Any other comments or advice before I view would be most welcome.


Good luck with your trial and or choosing of the 35th jong thumbs.
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#553130 - 10/01/19 11:19 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: MOG 615]
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Andy,
My +8 is 2001 and is yet with the 4.0 Rover V8 Lucas Sagem Electronic system (same as 2003 - 35th Anniversary). I think the change from the Hotwire at MMC was in 2000.
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#553286 - 11/01/19 06:20 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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I have a U.S version 35th Anniversary edition and was told when I bought the car from the original owner that there were 105 made. I don't know if he was accurate or not.

My car has the GEMS system and so far two related problems. One was a failure of the mass air flow sensor. The car will still run, but barely. Easy fix as long as you're not out in the middle of nowhere like I was. The other is the continual problem with the imobilizer not wanting to communicate with the engine management computer, it cranks but no start. I have had it reset but shortly the problem returns. Cycle the ignition switch 3 times and it starts every time. I know some other 35th edition owners and they have never experienced the problem.

Otherwise it has been a great car. Gas mileage has been 28 - 30 miles per U.S. gallon on the highway.
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#553292 - 11/01/19 06:58 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: davewhite]
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Thank you all for your useful responses.
Going to look at the car tomorrow morning so I feel to be armed with some useful questions.

In the meantime and as a benchmark, I took a drive yesterday in a 3.7 Roadster, and I have to say I was very impressed. I'd need a switchable sports exhaust though!

I'll post my thoughts on the Plus 8 in due course.

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#553417 - 12/01/19 11:53 AM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Jacques]
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Andy,
My +8 is 2001 and is yet with the 4.0 Rover V8 Lucas Sagem Electronic system (same as 2003 - 35th Anniversary). I think the change from the Hotwire at MMC was in 2000.


Jacques

Change at MMC is always something of moveable feast ! I thought the change was 2001 initially but then I was told of someone with a 2002 car that had "Hotwire" . Nothing is ever simple with Morgans.
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#553421 - 12/01/19 12:00 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: MOG 615]
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Which can make it even more fun trying to answer the odd question on older cars when conducting tours smile
But, fun it definitely is! thumbs grin2
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#553431 - 12/01/19 12:25 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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#553436 - 12/01/19 12:43 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: DaveW]
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Originally Posted By DaveW
Tell 'em anything, they can't disprove it!!


Not sure that’s true - someone could well wave a copy of a certain book at Graham and use that as proof.
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#553467 - 12/01/19 04:53 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Too bad You did not get a drive in a 2005 3.0 Ltr Roadster. I like My +8 Bitsa because it has "Grunt". How ever the 3.0 has "Balance". I would love a 3.0 Roadster.
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#553476 - 12/01/19 06:51 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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So how did it go in the Plus 8 today jong ?
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#553486 - 12/01/19 07:35 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: +8Rich]
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I liked it a lot. Drove well and looked good. A few niggles and minor issues, but no deal breakers. I think I shall be making an offer. Then I shall be seeking all sorts of advice!

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#553497 - 12/01/19 09:14 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Glad you enjoyed it, sounding hopeful thumbs
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#553507 - 12/01/19 10:57 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Sounds like a grand day out!! thumbs
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#553508 - 12/01/19 10:59 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Originally Posted By jong
I liked it a lot. Drove well and looked good. A few niggles and minor issues, but no deal breakers. I think I shall be making an offer. Then I shall be seeking all sorts of advice!


Good news
Glad you liked it.
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#553907 - Yesterday at 09:00 AM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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........and, bought it!
But now looking at a few mods: Round convex mirrors, dash LED bezels, etc and possibly a full s/s exhaust instead of the rather tired m/s one.
Any stockist preferable to any others?

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#553993 - Yesterday at 06:45 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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........and, bought it!
But now looking at a few mods: Round convex mirrors, dash LED bezels, etc and possibly a full s/s exhaust instead of the rather tired m/s one.
Any stockist preferable to any others?


Congratulations

Is it the silver grey one with the red leather?

Exhaust - try Librands
Round door mirrors - I prefer Phoenix Designs aka Morgan Hoods www.morganhoods.com -(also recommend you get a storm cover from John if the Mog doesn’t come with one)
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#553998 - Yesterday at 07:03 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Congratulations Jong. A very wise purchase. drive
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#554004 - Yesterday at 07:26 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Great stuff. Enjoy your new Morgan adventures. thumbs
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#554029 - Yesterday at 09:30 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Congratulations jong - wishing you many happy adventures.
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#554036 - Yesterday at 10:18 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: Stewart S]
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It is indeed the grey one with the black wings and red interior. Thanks for pointing me towards Phoenix designs for the mirrors. They do look good.
I'm already in discussion regarding the Librands exhaust!

A bit of a pain buying a car in Bristol when I'm 180 miles away, but I can't pretend I'm not looking forward to that drive home!

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#554037 - Yesterday at 10:19 PM Re: Plus 8 35th Anniversary model [Re: jong]
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Thanks to everyone on this forum forum for the advice and encouragement.

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