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#553022 - 10/01/19 03:57 PM McLaren not far begind Ferrari now
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Just under 5000 per annum compared with Ferraris 7000. Not bad for a recent start up. Couldnt find out how many Porsche make but I believe their target is something like 200k. Which is about the same volume as jaguar.

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#553207 - 11/01/19 02:17 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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According to the VW group investors pack, Porsche shipped 256,000 cars in 2018, which is a lot more than Jaguar and at a much higher average price particularly if you have no self control on the options list.

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#553219 - 11/01/19 02:55 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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I would hazard a guess that well over 50% of those were Tonka Toys. This is the big market which is why everyone is doing it, you would think that fuel was only 50p a gallon!!
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#553220 - 11/01/19 02:58 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: MJF]
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Originally Posted By MJF
According to the VW group investors pack, Porsche shipped 256,000 cars in 2018, which is a lot more than Jaguar and at a much higher average price particularly if you have no self control on the options list.


That's where the 'real' profit is made
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#553228 - 11/01/19 03:24 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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Remember that Ferrari deliberately control the number of new cars released among the public in order to maintain market control. Who said rigging markets was illegal? I suspect that they could do quite a few more if they tried.

McLaren have done a great job coming into such a refined market at that pace. It shows that focus and engineering skills still have a place. When you look at others that have tried, Koooonigggseeeggss, Pagani etc. They have great products as well but have not gained McLarens broad market acceptance.

It also shows the lower cost models sell well. If you can afford a Sausage GT3xxx then you can be sitting in an equally impressive (but different) McLaren 5x0 model.

Sad for Jaguar.
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#553233 - 11/01/19 03:35 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: lowebird]
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Originally Posted By lowebird
I would hazard a guess that well over 50% of those were Tonka Toys. This is the big market which is why everyone is doing it, you would think that fuel was only 50p a gallon!!


I’ve been reliably told that Porsche sell more SUV’s than every other model put together so based on those figures, at least 130,000
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#553252 - 11/01/19 04:28 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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Any money on a McLaren 4x4 then ??

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#553306 - 11/01/19 08:05 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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#553376 - 12/01/19 09:33 AM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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Snow bad in South Yorkshire David ?
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#553494 - 12/01/19 09:00 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Originally Posted By lowebird
I would hazard a guess that well over 50% of those were Tonka Toys. This is the big market which is why everyone is doing it, you would think that fuel was only 50p a gallon!!


I’ve been reliably told that Porsche sell more SUV’s than every other model put together so based on those figures, at least 130,000


Yes but those SUVs are really VW / audi SUVs in drag. They arent real Porsche cars. Badge engineering.

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#553504 - 12/01/19 10:36 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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Same for Bentley. Although rumour has it they have a few spare Bentuglay hanging around

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The only one in the stable that has not done a 4x4 2.2 tonne SUV so far is Ducati, give em time!
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#553546 - 13/01/19 10:31 AM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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Originally Posted By howard
Originally Posted By Stewart S
Originally Posted By lowebird
I would hazard a guess that well over 50% of those were Tonka Toys. This is the big market which is why everyone is doing it, you would think that fuel was only 50p a gallon!!


I’ve been reliably told that Porsche sell more SUV’s than every other model put together so based on those figures, at least 130,000


Yes but those SUVs are really VW / audi SUVs in drag. They arent real Porsche cars. Badge engineering.


That may be true to some extent but it’s the SUVs that have made Porsche so successful in latter years. Let’s face it, it’s what the market demands even if some of us don’t like them. I do as it happens!
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#553554 - 13/01/19 10:49 AM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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The first time I saw a Bentayga I was horrified. Why anyone would want such an ugly lump is baffling. The spec may be impressive but when the monocoque and mechanicals are shared with a group of other makes what’s the point? Is it really a Bentley or just a status symbol?
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#553569 - 13/01/19 12:32 PM Re: McLaren not far begind Ferrari now [Re: howard]
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As we all know, it's what the market wants. I wonder what the next "must have" will be?
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