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#553250 - 11/01/19 04:27 PM Yellow Vulture Anyone.
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Yikes wink

Well given the previous discussion about reduction in the numbers of road traffic police cars with real thinking policepeople aboard I guess it is no surprise to find more cameras being used.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/truth-yellow-vulture-speed-cameras-15657974

The new so called Yellow Vulture is with us if you listen to the interwebisphere.
Don't use your phone, eat food, smoke, touch yourself (sorry I meant your phone) near these.

Also the M3/M25 smart motorway is apparently now being set to take your selfies above 72mph. Now I know why they call it smart. It is smarter at generating revenue!
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#553255 - 11/01/19 04:38 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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Is it defo the M3? Not trying to doubt you at all but I had a WhatsApp from a good friend yesterday saying M1/M25? I know both have been in a permanent state of roadworks recently but as I use the M1 fairly often that’s more of a (selfish) worry!
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#553259 - 11/01/19 04:46 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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re the smart motorway stuff.

A person I know from the local Basingstoke taxi company had a chat with the M3 traffic police about it apparently. He was warned they were turning the screws. Could be PR but it's worth mentioning as out of hours it is a nice clear road. If doubt it will have any effect or be able to reduce the permanent conga dance going on in lane 4 of course.

The smart bit I refer to is the newly rebuilt section from M3 southbound until just short of Fleet Jun 4a. The M4 around Newbury/Reading is being upgraded shortly and I suspect it will be the same.
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#553261 - 11/01/19 04:51 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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Many thanks
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#553412 - 12/01/19 11:45 AM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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My new tin top has a speed limiter which I find very useful in built-up areas. It's all to easy to speed up without noticing in modern cars.
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#553415 - 12/01/19 11:49 AM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Felix42]
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Originally Posted By Felix42
My new tin top has a speed limiter which I find very useful in built-up areas. It's all to easy to speed up without noticing in modern cars.


Totally agree, I was "Done" for doing 35mph whilst driving along a totally clear road in lovely weather hurting nobody.
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#553420 - 12/01/19 11:58 AM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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Over regulation of speed causes severe bunching. We now do a lot of travelling on the section from M18J1 to M1J28(A38).

Traffic is appalling, even when people should be at work, and basically it turns into four lanes doing 60-65, with a lot of tailgating, especially in lane 4.

I don't see any way to improve this except maybe keeping HGVs out of lane 3...(it's a four lane stretch).
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#553430 - 12/01/19 12:25 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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That's the conga I was talking about as well Dave.

I understood that the lower speed/higher density model had been proven as more effective?
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#553455 - 12/01/19 03:35 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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Originally Posted By Alistair
That's the conga I was talking about as well Dave.

I understood that the lower speed/higher density model had been proven as more effective?


Yeah it may well be, but it doesn't feel like it............ grin2
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#553470 - 12/01/19 05:35 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: lowebird]
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Originally Posted By lowebird
Originally Posted By Felix42
My new tin top has a speed limiter which I find very useful in built-up areas. It's all to easy to speed up without noticing in modern cars.


Totally agree, I was "Done" for doing 35mph whilst driving along a totally clear road in lovely weather hurting nobody.


Reg,
fortunately you didn't hurt anybody but a little known or appreciated fact, if a child had appeared from nowhere and you had been unfortunate enough to have collided with it and it had died you would be looking at death by careless simply because you were over the speed limit. Food for thought.
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#553480 - 12/01/19 06:59 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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Originally Posted By Alistair
That's the conga I was talking about as well Dave.

I understood that the lower speed/higher density model had been proven as more effective?

More effective in producing more accidents?
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#553509 - 12/01/19 10:59 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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How many static speed cameras have you in UK ? Here we have 3275 static cameras.
You have yellow vulture, we have yellow jackets !
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#553510 - 12/01/19 11:10 PM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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A quick google says that in November 2017 there were -
Half of UK road speed cameras are switched off. Only around half of fixed speed cameras on British roads are switched on, according to new data. Figures released by 36 police forces in the UK show that of a total 2,838 cameras, just 1,486 - or 52% - are active and catching law-breakers.4 Nov 2017

I don't imagine that figure will have changed an awful lot Jacques.
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#553531 - 13/01/19 09:25 AM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: Alistair]
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A level headed article here on Speed Cameras UK

We're talking about Hadecs 3 cameras, I think.

"The HADECS 3 speed cameras have so far been installed on the M25 in Kent between junctions 5 and 6/7. More locations are planned on a number of other motorways in the UK, including:

‣M1 in Derbyshire and South Yorkshire
‣M3 in Surrey and Hampshire
‣M4/M5 in Somerset
‣M6 around Birmingham
‣M25 junctions 5 to 6/7 Kent
‣M62 in West Yorkshire"

I guess that as they're fixed, a the databases of decent satnav or radar detector will give alerts

Will
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#553550 - 13/01/19 10:37 AM Re: Yellow Vulture Anyone. [Re: TheCustomer]
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They have been on the M3 since the "smart" motorway section opened. In may ways they are more obvious, mounted on a bracket to the left, than when on overhead gantries.

I tend to set the cruise control to 77 (limit plus 10%) on these sections, it will be irritating if they are being lowered to 72!

I was driving down the A27 just before Chichester and possibly too late didn't see a camera van on an over bridge. I was doing about 80mph, indicated, along with all the other traffic. If it was a speed camera the NIP should arrive any day.
It may have been an ANPR check, in which case I'm safe.
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