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#553562 - 13/01/19 12:19 PM Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan
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Hi. Hoping to tap into the Google app known as The Morgan Massive please. Not sure if this is the right forum but as a newbie I thought other potential newbies may also be curious. If wrong, apologies.
Please can anyone suggest what is a comfortable time/distance to drive in a Morgan in a single session/day (ignoring ablution stops/char breaks)? Myself and Lady H are looking at planning trips for post 15th March (when my Plus 4 is born, full grown) and considering places such as Cornwall (approx 5 hours and 300 miles from home) or west coast of Scotland (9 hours non stop and just over 500 miles-yes I am now singing the Proclaimers).
I should state that I am the one who enjoys driving the long distances but I want to be fair to Lady H so that she (and to be fair I have a dodgy back) and I don’t need a hoist to get out of the car at the end of the journey!!! For info we are getting the 110 “sports performance seats” if that makes a difference. The last time I took a test drive was about 8-10 years ago from the factory and I seem to recall pottering around for a day seemed fairly trouble free from a comfort point of view but it was a leisurely pace with multiple stops for photos!
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HB

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#553565 - 13/01/19 12:25 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
Hamwich Offline

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Depends on how many breaks you take, I reckon. Just stopping for fuel and biobreaks I'm happy doing 300 miles, with a longer stop for lunch or whatever then 400 miles is no problem. Personally I would say that 500 miles / 9 hours is a bit of a stretch.
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#553566 - 13/01/19 12:26 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Furthest I’ve driven in a day is Kent to The Lake District, just over 300 miles and around 6 hours, no problems with comfort but it was mostly motorway so not the most enjoyable route in a Morgan.
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#553568 - 13/01/19 12:31 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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HB

I’m not entirely sure if they fit the 110 anni sports seats so check first but I can recommend Wolf Performance’s pump up lumbar supports

I had a lower back injury 2 years ago and they are FAB-U-LOUS for lumbar comfort on long journeys

If your seats are similar to mine, they are a 5 minute easy peasy install
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#553570 - 13/01/19 12:39 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Stewart S]
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Brilliant, thanks. They look good and v worthwhile. Are they affected by having the heated seats option as we are?
HB

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#553571 - 13/01/19 12:43 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue
Brilliant, thanks. They look good and v worthwhile. Are they affected by having the heated seats option as we are?
HB


I doubt it as it will just be an element in the seat but I would ring Cain (Wolf Performance) when you get your Mog to just check with him

He’s super knowledgable and very helpful
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#553572 - 13/01/19 12:45 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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For me the limiting component is the noise, wind, tires mainly when driving on autoroutes. The furthest was about 1000 km from Aix-en-Provence to Spittal/Drau in Austria. But normally about 500 km with a little sightseeing, coffee and photostops.
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#553577 - 13/01/19 01:14 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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An interesting question HB, and of course I have no answer.

But can confirm on my 110 Plus 4 the sports seats come with the pump up lumbar support. Or at least mine did, and I didn’t specify them!

I didn’t opt for heated seats though.

Interestingly the manual that comes with the car makes no mention of the lumbar bit and I only noticed them yesterday when visiting the car in the garage.

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#553579 - 13/01/19 01:26 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Fat Wolfie]
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Thanks Stewart, kwb and Fat Wolfie
Think I saw Cain at the FringeMog meet we were at in October so, subject to how the seats turn out, will probably grab him if I’m allowed to go again!!!!
How are things going with your new baby FW- been out much over the weekend so far?
Cheers
HB

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#553583 - 13/01/19 01:58 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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We work on 300 miles a day.
400 is possible but 500 would be hard work.
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#553585 - 13/01/19 02:01 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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We've done Mullion Cove in Cornwall to Sheffield in one journery and roof down. Probably six hours.
We've also done Fort William to Sheffield in one run, starting in freezing cold heavy rain and ending in blue sky and probably 20 degrees warmer......That took seven and a half hours, and that's our limit.
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#553586 - 13/01/19 02:05 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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I think my longest was Canterbury to Derby with one pit stop - but it took over 7 hours due to traffic jams. It was OK - but 7 hours in a Mog is a bit much with only one stop.
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#553587 - 13/01/19 02:07 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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If it wasn't for the daft issue I have with my foot (Morton's Neuroma) being irritated by the heavy clutch spring, I'd say for me upto 8 hours of driving.

I did Dorset to Northumberland without any issues other than my foot (and bladder) but you need to fill up tootled around the borders over the weekend then back to Dorset again no hotels or stopovers in the middle just the odd bite to eat and stretching of the legs.

The 3.0 is a very easy lazy engine to live with on long runs, the rest of the car would be much the same as your new +4

Oh yes and I was topless the whole way up and down, but did have the side screens on to reduce some of the wind.
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#553588 - 13/01/19 02:12 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: milligoon]
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Originally Posted By milligoon
did have the side screens on to reduce some of the wind.


Yes, for long distances especially on motorways sidescreens are a great benefit.
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#553592 - 13/01/19 02:17 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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I think 250 to 300 miles, depending on the type of road, is quite enough. There are no prizes for killing yourself.
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#553593 - 13/01/19 02:17 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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+1. Side screens for Motorways.
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#553597 - 13/01/19 02:30 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: PhilRoyle]
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Originally Posted By PhilRoyle
I think my longest was Canterbury to Derby with one pit stop - but it took over 7 hours due to traffic jams. It was OK - but 7 hours in a Mog is a bit much with only one stop.


When the Mog was at Newmarket I went down from home both days. An epic road trip!!!!
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#553598 - 13/01/19 02:37 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Thank you to everyone for all the responses and suggestions. All will be duly noted for the future and a great help for our planning. Ta for taking the time-do appreciate the effort
Kind regards
HB

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#553603 - 13/01/19 03:01 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Did Cambridge to Perigueux via Eurotunnel in a day, and did the return trip in a day 4 days later. About 650 miles each way.

Using the autoroutes made the driving very stress free. Would not recommend doing this all the time but this was a needs must trip and it worked OK

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#553604 - 13/01/19 03:01 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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On our trip to Austria last year, 250 miles in a day was straightforward and allowed plenty of time for comfort stops, sight seeing and meals. 300 was a bit too much and we ended up using motorways to keep journey times within bounds. The fundamental issue is the person in the passenger seat. My nagivator starts to get verbose after too long on the car. Planning this year’s trip to the Pyrenees we have tried to keep every day under 250 miles - it is meant to be a holiday.

And another vote for leaving side screens on for the longer days - it is important that you are still talking to each other when you get that post drive cold beer at the end of the day. I have now dispensed with the side screen storage luggage rack and replaced it with a low-line luggage rack which gives me much better rear visibility with luggage in place. The side screen storage rack sits in the garage and will be re-installed for days out locally when just carrying picnic chairs etc.
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#553616 - 13/01/19 03:55 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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The answer to your question is exactly 235 miles. Hope this helps.
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#553619 - 13/01/19 04:02 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Fox Terrier]
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Originally Posted By Fox Terrier
The answer to your question is exactly 235 miles. Hope this helps.

That is Ok for an average condition day, but could be even 248 miles when descending from mountains. When rain please exchange miles with km
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#553623 - 13/01/19 04:08 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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#553624 - 13/01/19 04:12 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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All this talk of long Morgan journeys has got me yearning for the salt to disappear and the days to grow longer... .We did 4.5 hours on route to North wales from sussex as part of our "shake down" trip when we first got the 4/4. Very enjoyable - Only real issue was the chilly draft around the lower legs/feet - cured by a travel rugs wrapped around effected parts.

Get hold of Dave W's book for some useful tips about touring......
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#553626 - 13/01/19 04:15 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Probably best to plan by time rather than mileage taking into account the type of roads you wish to travel on. Like others before when we are touring we wouldn't want to do more than 250 - 300 miles in a day but when I have been on my own and driving for a purpose A to B I have sometimes covered 400+. We have both found the older non-reclining sports seats very comfortable and improved by the addition of the inflatable lumber supports. One thing that I have noticed that I don't experience in our trusty Volvo is the need to take more comfort breaks. I put that down to the harder suspension!
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#553631 - 13/01/19 04:33 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: andymot]
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That’s the second mention I’ve seen of a book by Dave W. Have tapped Dave W book of Morgan into the internet of things and it’s come up with David Wellings Buying and Maintaining etc. Is that the book to which people are referring? I aleady trust the peeps on here with their ideas....
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#553632 - 13/01/19 04:37 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue
David Wellings Buying and Maintaining etc. Is that the book to which people are referring?


Yup, that's the badger.
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#553635 - 13/01/19 04:54 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Hamwich]
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Duly ordered!
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#553638 - 13/01/19 05:02 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Rob Thornton]
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Originally Posted By Rob Thornton
improved by the addition of the inflatable lumber supports.

Oh Crikey! We're into wood again!
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#553640 - 13/01/19 05:08 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Well spotted Bob and too late to correct!
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#553641 - 13/01/19 05:10 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Rob Thornton]
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Originally Posted By Rob Thornton
Well spotted Bob and too late to correct!

Cheers Rob. Meant in good humour, glad you took it that way.
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#553643 - 13/01/19 05:12 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Rob Thornton]
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I assume it’s so you don’t uncomfortable knots in your muscles (I know there’s another thread elsewhere with all these jokes so I’ll grab my coat and go).
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#553645 - 13/01/19 05:18 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue
I assume it’s so you don’t uncomfortable knots in your muscles (I know there’s another thread elsewhere with all these jokes so I’ll grab my coat and go). getcoat
HB
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#553647 - 13/01/19 05:54 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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We both drive the +8 , and we change every 2 hours on long runs . This helps both the driver and passenger to stay fresher and enjoy things.

On Uk roads we are very lucky to cover more than 100 miles in 2 hours, but we don't mind a 500 mile target which we do with 4 driver changes plus assorted pit stops and refreshment breaks. However when faced with a 500 mile day , we do insist on doing less than 150 the next day.

We prefer to travel open with sidecreens in position, but top up can be a little less tiring due to the lower wind noise.


Edited by MOG 615 (13/01/19 05:55 PM)
Edit Reason: poor poof reading
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#553649 - 13/01/19 06:07 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Wie made some 6-7 hour trips in Norway. That means 200-300 km trips a day!

Longest trip in Germany was 500km with 2 breaks, most in motorways! 6 hours in Norway- was fun, the trip in the motorway was no fun!
All trips hood down and without sidescreens! drive clapx


Edited by bmgermany (13/01/19 06:41 PM)
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#553653 - 13/01/19 06:26 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Around 250 miles a day for me seems comfortable with breaks with the side screens and roof off. I'd put that up to 400 with them both on though as the noise and buffeting level is far less tiring.
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#553654 - 13/01/19 06:32 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Thank you everyone. Lady H and I have some planning to do!!!! How exciting although apparently I’m told the car needs to arrive before I can drive there. She is so bloomin’ sensible sometimes....party pooper
HB

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#553659 - 13/01/19 06:52 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue
Thank you everyone. Lady H and I have some planning to do!!!! How exciting although apparently I’m told the car needs to arrive before I can drive there. She is so bloomin’ sensible sometimes....party pooper
HB


They have an unfortunate habit of spoiling our dreams with a dose of reality.

One further thought - I think someone mentioned time rather than mileage above. There are roads in the Alps where 70 miles is more than enough in one day.
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#553660 - 13/01/19 06:59 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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We find that a drive of 2 to 3 hours, followed by a "comfort break" and fill up with fuel work well. Typically 100 to 150 miles, so 500 miles in a day is possible, but tiring.

The Plus 8 is quieter hood down above about 60mph.
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#553665 - 13/01/19 07:46 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: MOG 615]
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Originally Posted By MOG 615

I'm sure that plenty of rich heterosexuals are reading it as well.
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#553690 - 13/01/19 10:15 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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I'm sure you'll find your own 'pace', which for me/us is dictated by the nature of the journey. For example, if you're in holiday mode setting then it's everything off & stowed, with a nice bimble going on, so around 100 miles with lots of tea & pee stops.

Heading for a destination against a setting sun or simply the need to get there, then it's hood up, ear plugs in & motorways..

You can do some serious miles if you choose, but the noise, wind blast and traffic around you all conspire some days.

In truth, it's a leisure car and one to enjoy, so a bit of Fangio on a nice part mixed with some hunkering down and humming to yourself is usually the order of the day.

I actually don't like driving to a timescale any longer, so I'd rather plan an overnighter to spread the miles these days.

Half the fun is trying things out, so enjoy it..!
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#553691 - 13/01/19 10:27 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: tmg513]
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Originally Posted By tmg513
Originally Posted By MOG 615

I'm sure that plenty of rich heterosexuals are reading it as well.



rofl
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#553703 - 13/01/19 11:08 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Stewart S]
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We drove to Munich from the Eurotunnel in Calais in 2017, just under 630 miles - hood down but widescreens firmly in place. The Tillett seats in our Plus 8 are very comfortable, but no seat heaters!
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#553713 - 14/01/19 04:30 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Yes 500km is a long way in any open car and I always have the sidescreens on, but even with my back i can extricate myself after that for a reviving g & T.
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#553734 - 14/01/19 08:59 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue

Please can anyone suggest what is a comfortable time/distance to drive in a Morgan in a single session/day (ignoring ablution stops/char breaks)?


Much would depend on how dodgy your back is....

I have driven from coast to coast in France in a single hop in my previous Morgan (3.7 Roadster). It was not hugely comfortable and my back suffered afterwards.

In my case, even though I am now driving the more comfortable Aero +8, would probably be 4 hours absolute tops. When I next do a Continental tour, that is what I would plan on.
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#553752 - 14/01/19 11:12 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Neilda]
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For me, the best roads to drive the Morgan are country roads. Of course you can drive on highways to get from A to B quickly. But country roads are much more fun!

Just find out what gives you the most pleasure!

I would start with shorter distances. Too long stages at the beginning could (especially for the co-driver) spoil the joy of driving a Morgan.

We plan our trips according to the motto "The journey is the destination".

The more beautiful the landscape and the more winding the roads, the shorter the daily stages.

Last year we drove 11.600 km and there was no day stage over 300 km.
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#553755 - 14/01/19 11:41 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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We generally limit it to about 500km a day if we are trying to get somewhere. That gives us time fr a relaxed lunch and a few pit stops wink
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#553759 - 14/01/19 12:25 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Hi HB.

I’m lucky enough to be retired so didn’t take car out at the weekend - itsmuch quieter in the week!

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#553767 - 14/01/19 12:49 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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One thing to remember in all of this - “Morgan Bladder” is a recognised condition. On bumpy roads, the first coffee stop is preceded by a sprint to the little room.
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#553775 - 14/01/19 01:13 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Paul F]
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Originally Posted By Paul F
One thing to remember in all of this - “Morgan Bladder” is a recognised condition. On bumpy roads, the first coffee stop is preceded by a sprint to the little room.
. Some taffmogers have been known to disappear behind large roadside tree's.... don't think the trees needed to be as big as the were. hide
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#553777 - 14/01/19 01:34 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Hello, have a look at "hello from germany - rhein-main-area"... I've (and my wife) done 2000 KM in 4 days. Most time in bad weather. The last day was 700 KM on the motorway. The days before were in south britian with one day Southampthon - LandsEnd, most on the M30, one day LandsEnd -Lymington via Dartmoor. My wife told me the +4 is a comfortable car for such travelling.

Look forward to enjoy your journey!

Greets from Germany

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#553829 - 14/01/19 07:01 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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I hope individuals won’t mind but, for brevity, may I say thank you for each and every reply (especially, but not exclusively, the funny ones). All are really helpful and give me as a novice a great insight as to what to expect and plan for.
Thank you
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#554081 - 16/01/19 10:27 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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40mile and my 63yrs old injured back ( from motorcycle accidents! ) is my limit gloomy
which is why my car is up for sale gloomy
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#554086 - 16/01/19 10:53 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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No words necessary here........a typical drive in the NW of Scotland. The last two are Applecross....... grin2











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#554088 - 16/01/19 10:58 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: DaveW]
Graham, G4FUJ Offline
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Bealach na Baa - wonderful bit of road!

A drive along Glen Torridon is also worth doing - for the scenery smile
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#554093 - 16/01/19 11:24 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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You need a cameraman with nerves of steel and a steady hand though............. smirk2
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#554094 - 16/01/19 11:24 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Bealach na Baa - wonderful bit of road!

A drive along Glen Torridon is also worth doing - for the scenery smile


It certainly is! I remember the first time I did it in 2013 I was being followed by Colin (SpannerJuggler) and Rob (RobMog88). I kept stopping for photographs about every 200 metres, around each bend a new vista opened up even more impossibly spectacular than the last.
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#554101 - 16/01/19 12:01 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Hamwich]
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Was it really 5-1/2 years ago? shocked2
I must drive up it one year, rather than the anti-clockwise Applecross route we did. Perhaps up, across to the inn, then back down again afterwards smile
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#554139 - 16/01/19 04:29 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: DaveW]
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Those are stunning views Dave. Would it be wrong to suggest that the Morgan simply enhances and magnifies the sheer beauty of nature or is that OTT?
One day that will be me (he says in a very longing voice)....😝
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#554147 - 16/01/19 05:45 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue
Those are stunning views Dave. Would it be wrong to suggest that the Morgan simply enhances and magnifies the sheer beauty of nature or is that OTT?
One day that will be me (he says in a very longing voice)....😝
HB


Yup. Any view of Scotland is enhanced by the presence of a Morgan. This is the B862, General Wade's Military Road. Not on the NC500 route, and illustrates perfectly my point about there being loads of quiet non-policed alternatives around.

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#554154 - 16/01/19 06:46 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Hamwich]
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What no rain! Couldn't possibly be Scotland!
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#554181 - 16/01/19 09:11 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Gambalunga]
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Originally Posted By Gambalunga
What no rain! Couldn't possibly be Scotland!


No, that only happens on bank and school holidays!
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#561529 - 22/02/19 11:01 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Did Warrington - Le Mans round trip a couple of times last year - about 580 miles each way, after 450 miles you start to get a bit buffered and suffering cabin fever !!

350 mile is good, 450 mile is you want a cup of tea at home, 580 mile you got bed sores and ear ache !

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#561627 - 22/02/19 07:32 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Bumpy]
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Thanks Bumpy
So far the longest one we’ve got lined up is a 300 mile trip down to Cornwall with other shorter trips lined up too so,like everyone has suggested, gonna take things fairly easy as we get used to the suspension etc. Too excited for words. Got told today that she has come out of the paint shop and moved to Trim. Yippeeeeedeeeee!
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#561779 - 23/02/19 04:14 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Longest drive in a single day was about 920 km (575miles) fleeing rain south of Munich and driving back home to sunny NL. Did this wt my son, who is at least as crazy as I am. This is to say, max distance per day depends on you and your company, as well as the road and traffic. More sensible folk would do no more than 400 km or so a day.
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#561782 - 23/02/19 04:26 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: BertR]
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Cheers Bert
Hope all is well in the Netherlands
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#562383 - 26/02/19 07:07 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: Bumpy]
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Originally Posted By Bumpy
Did Warrington - Le Mans round trip a couple of times last year - about 580 miles each way, after 450 miles you start to get a bit buffered and suffering cabin fever !!

350 mile is good, 450 mile is you want a cup of tea at home, 580 mile you got bed sores and ear ache !


I very much agree. I often do 8 hours and have done 12 hours (emergency) but 6 hours is the best. Particularly for the Passenger. Sitting and bouncing for 6 hours is enough.
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#562392 - 26/02/19 07:57 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue
Those are stunning views Dave. Would it be wrong to suggest that the Morgan simply enhances and magnifies the sheer beauty of nature or is that OTT?
One day that will be me (he says in a very longing voice)....😝
HB



The whole experience is amplified in a Morgan. You'll understand when you've done it!!!!
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#562396 - 26/02/19 08:28 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: DaveW]
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Its not long now......🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. Think, Mr Button, I may end up receiving divorce papers if I suggested driving 8-12 hours to Lady HB too early....
Down to the factory on Thursday morning and hopefully she will still be in maternity dress👍😇 (referring to Florence rather than Lady HB by the way otherwise cost may become more of a factor as well as time...). Anyhoo, can’t get rid of a slightly sick feeling in my tummy....with excitement of course..... read some more of your book,Dave, over the weekend to try and calm down. Corkin’ read and sooooooo interesting. Didn’t work. Simply ended up adding another three things to my potential fettling list. Thanks 🤬
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#562404 - 26/02/19 08:58 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Originally Posted By HeadlessBlue
Cheers Bert
Hope all is well in the Netherlands
HB

Yes, its good in NL, in multiple respcts! Fantastic weather now, and oppotunities to drive the Morgan!
Thanks for asking HB.
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#562416 - 26/02/19 10:34 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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My experience is that I can go for about 4 hours without problems and I find the seats in the Morgan very comfortable. The ladies usually require a pit stop long before I start to feel uncomfortable so the comfort factor is not what dictates stopping.

The usual thing is that just as you are ready to go they say "I'll just duck in to the loo before we leave". Ten minutes after your planned departure time you get away then after about half an hour or so it's "Keep an eye open for a service station /bar/Cafe please". After that you might manage to get in a couple of hours without a stop and if you are lucky you can stretch it to lunch time ooo
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#562447 - 27/02/19 09:07 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Best is when Management falls asleep. Sometimes an hour or so without commentary, stop requests or overspeed warning alerts is very relaxing.
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#562573 - 27/02/19 06:56 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Does Jan read this?
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#562578 - 27/02/19 07:08 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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Thanks all once again. Teehee- you are all little minx’s determined to cause trouble!
Unfortunately Lady HB doesn’t sleep when I’m driving and that’s even before she feels like we’re driving at 400 mph in a Morgan even though it’s only 40. This is even when I’m rabbiting on with my droning, soporific voice. I need to come up with another plan to tire her out 😇. Hoovering? Would that work? I am such an “ideas” man.....
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#562690 - 28/02/19 11:47 AM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: SFG]
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Originally Posted By SFG
Does Jan read this?


Fortunately not. I do tell her some of these things though. You won't snitch on me will you?

I have already told her that the best journey ever down the Fosse Way to Somerset was the day she had completely lost her voice. 30 minutes quicker journey and no earache.
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#562709 - 28/02/19 02:00 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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You should fit the passenger side with a loop of leather so that she can pull on the reins when you're going too fast.
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#562714 - 28/02/19 02:32 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: SFG]
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Originally Posted By SFG
You should fit the passenger side with a loop of leather so that she can pull on the reins when you're going too fast.


rofl
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#562803 - 28/02/19 07:50 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: HeadlessBlue]
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I will be looking to do up to 350 miles a day on a trip to the top of Norway in June. I expect my back to give up before the M3W does, but it may be a tight race.

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#562805 - 28/02/19 07:55 PM Re: Comfortable driving distances in a Morgan [Re: M3W55]
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Ooooh. Good luck with that. That sounds like a fantastic trip. Jealous once again
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