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#555010 - 20/01/19 05:30 PM Vintage roads great and small (TV)
PaulV Offline
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Apparently Public TV in the USA is showing Christopher Timothy and Peter Davison's road trip in a 4/4 series "Vintage roads great and small" - interesting it seems to be a More4 production but not seen it yet in the UK...
Links: IMDB ref, ATV description, TM refer from BertL, Facebook Video trailer..., YouTube trailer


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#555038 - 20/01/19 07:14 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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That’s a programme that I’d definitely love to see....
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#555067 - 20/01/19 08:34 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Well spotted. Let's hope it gets a UK airing.
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#555132 - 21/01/19 10:36 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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the trailer looks fun.

It seems though that you can only view the full program in Canada swear


Edited by A11OGE (21/01/19 10:47 AM)
Edit Reason: note on viewing
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#555147 - 21/01/19 12:14 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: A11OGE]
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The 3 episodes are offered on www.amazon.COM and there via the payment channel ACORN tv.
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#555175 - 21/01/19 02:49 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Damn don't have those. It looks a great programme.
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#555192 - 21/01/19 04:05 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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I've seen the first one (Inverness to Skye) and have episodes 2 and 3 on the PVR - London to Land's End down the A30, and Cardiff to Snowdonia through mid-Wales, I think.

I very much appreciate the sentiment behind the programme. Years ago (as a spotty teen, must have been somewhere around 1984 or so, I think) I navigated for my dad driving his 1930 Austin 7 from Warminster to Chester: we had a 1930 RAC atlas and guidebook, and kept to a route consisting only of roads that had existed when the car was built: no motorways, no bypasses, a wonderful journey via Chippenham, Cirencester, down the Birdlip hill (that was quite interesting...) into Gloucester and then along the Marches via Ludlow, Shrewsbury and Wrexham. With a (not quite in keeping with the times) portable transistor radio tuned to Radio 4 long wave for Test Match Special.
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#555196 - 21/01/19 04:32 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Oakvillian]
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Seems like you can sign up for a week's free trial of Acorn TV, but it's one of those ones where you have to provide your card details to get the free trial, so I think I'll pass....

https://signup.acorn.tv

although as intimated above this you can do the free trial through amazon prime, so don't have to give your card details to a third party.

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Roads-Great-Small-Season/dp/B07HPD36CV


Edited by pandy (21/01/19 04:36 PM)
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#555219 - 21/01/19 05:56 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: pandy]
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Originally Posted By pandy
Seems like you can sign up for a week's free trial of Acorn TV, but it's one of those ones where you have to provide your card details to get the free trial, so I think I'll pass....

https://signup.acorn.tv



It appears to be a service that allows views outside of the UK to watch British programmes.

I suppose it's appropriate that the service isn't available if you are in the UK (I just tried!) but slightly ironic given that this particular show hasn't been broadcast here!
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#556099 - 26/01/19 07:06 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Just seen it starts next week on CH4 at 8PM As "Great British Car Journeys"
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#556100 - 26/01/19 07:10 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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It'll be worth a look I think.
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#556105 - 26/01/19 08:10 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
Graham, G4FUJ Offline
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I see Episode 1 will include the turntable ferry to Skye.
On Saturday Feb 2nd. smile
Good because there is little else on a Saturday (apart from Channel 5's history programmes...)
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#556114 - 26/01/19 09:16 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: milligoon]
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Originally Posted By milligoon
Just seen it starts next week on CH4 at 8PM As "Great British Car Journeys"

Brilliant, thanks Mark
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#556117 - 26/01/19 09:21 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: milligoon]
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Fantastic- great spot- thanks Mark
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#556120 - 26/01/19 09:39 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Looking forward to it, thanks.
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#556156 - 27/01/19 10:07 AM Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
Ian Wegg Offline

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No wonder my fabulous TiVo box couldn't find it, the search function doesn't work if they change the name!!

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/great-british-car-journeys

Thanks for the pointer, I've adjusted my home tech to record it.

~ian
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#556159 - 27/01/19 10:51 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Thanks have set a reminder on All4
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#556171 - 27/01/19 11:51 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: John V6]
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Thanks also, reminder set.
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#556174 - 27/01/19 12:05 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Thanks for the heads up - reminder set for next Saturday on C4
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#556177 - 27/01/19 12:14 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Looks good - will record as out at Donmog Christmas Dinner (YES I know!!).
Will it involve presenter with his arm inserted in the exhaust up to the armpit?
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#556179 - 27/01/19 12:26 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Ace. Recorder set. Thanks for the heads-up!
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#556181 - 27/01/19 12:31 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By PhilRoyle
Looks good - will record as out at Donmog Christmas Dinner (YES I know!!).
Will it involve presenter with his arm inserted in the exhaust up to the armpit?


+1

Recorder set.

And see you there Phil.


Edited by Paul F (27/01/19 12:32 PM)
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#556182 - 27/01/19 12:46 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Wonder why they changed the name of the show?

Would have thought part of the premise was the link between of the two actors to James Herriot

If they crash it could be called

‘Vets in Spin’

Or

Vet in Driving Harness

If one is a really bad driver

‘If Only They Could Walk’
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#556184 - 27/01/19 12:56 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Very good Stewart
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#556189 - 27/01/19 01:02 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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If it’s a bit dull and goes on too long it could be called

‘From Here-iot to Eternity’
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#556191 - 27/01/19 01:08 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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‘A Bridge Too Farnon’
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#556193 - 27/01/19 01:12 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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‘Tricki-Woo Road Kill’
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#556194 - 27/01/19 01:15 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
‘Tricki-Woo Road Kill’


Or for the cult 'B' picture devotees

"Faster Pussycat, Kill Kill"
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#556195 - 27/01/19 01:16 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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That's enough now Stewart, go and have a lie down smile
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#556196 - 27/01/19 01:19 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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#556202 - 27/01/19 01:30 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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#556204 - 27/01/19 01:46 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Stewart S]
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Pity one of them isn't called Ian. Morgan? Vet er in a rain, Ian.
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#556209 - 27/01/19 02:07 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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If the traffic is heavy on the journey

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#556225 - 27/01/19 04:19 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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I'm warning you Stewart...... I'll tell your Mum and Dad......
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#556227 - 27/01/19 04:22 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Ace. Recorder set. Thanks for the heads-up!


+1... Looking forward to it very much!
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#556266 - 27/01/19 07:49 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Have just seen the trailer on Ch4 for next sat , looks a nice Morgan and some nice scenery too !
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#556719 - 30/01/19 09:43 AM Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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There are a couple of articles about the show in the TV Times and they make it their "Pick of the Day" for Saturday.



Peter Davison describes the 4/4 as "a brilliant car" but reckons it's almost impossible to get out of at their age!

~ian
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#556730 - 30/01/19 11:46 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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They should take up Yoga! (Says he... laugh2 )
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#556735 - 30/01/19 11:59 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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The Radio Times editor really didn't like it.....described the car as a 1936 Morgan. So she has no idea what she is talking about and doesn't like "nostalgia" programs.
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#556747 - 30/01/19 01:39 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Peter J]
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Originally Posted By Peter J
The Radio Times editor really didn't like it.....described the car as a 1936 Morgan. So she has no idea what she is talking about and doesn't like "nostalgia" programs.



BBc balance in question again ?
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#556753 - 30/01/19 02:15 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Was that Alison Graham by any chance? I found that cars weren't her only area of in-expertise, she doesn't know very much about television either. Her hapless articles were the main reason we stopped buying the Radio Times years ago.
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#556757 - 30/01/19 02:53 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Ha ha
Is that a picture of Tricki-Woo in the TV times photo?
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#556758 - 30/01/19 02:55 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Originally Posted By Ian Wegg
Was that Alison Graham by any chance? I found that cars weren't her only area of in-expertise, she doesn't know very much about television either. Her hapless articles were the main reason we stopped buying the Radio Times years ago.



Yes.
I think we may be moving over to the "other" magazine!

I forwarded by letter of complaint to Radio Times to MMC.
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#556760 - 30/01/19 03:05 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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I've got to say I'm not a fan of either actor I'm just hoping the car and routes are more characterful.
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#556765 - 30/01/19 03:55 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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The trailer seems to have "they all do that sir" pre-loaded.

"Why are my feet wet?"
Screeching noise as they pull the sump off it on a ridge?

Does anyone know if one of them owns the car or if it is a demo/loaner ?

Record all set on the braincell.
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#556766 - 30/01/19 04:00 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Ha ha
Is that a picture of Tricki-Woo in the TV times photo?

I dread to think why Christopher Timothy has his sleeves rolled up.
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#556770 - 30/01/19 04:06 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: +8Rich]
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Originally Posted By +8Rich
... just hoping the car and routes are more characterful.

As I said earlier Richard, they do use the last running turntable ferry for the crossing to Skye smile
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#556773 - 30/01/19 04:20 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By +8Rich
... just hoping the car and routes are more characterful.

As I said earlier Richard, they do use the last running turntable ferry for the crossing to Skye smile


That will do nicely Graham thumbs
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#556786 - 30/01/19 05:11 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: tmg513]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
Ha ha
Is that a picture of Tricki-Woo in the TV times photo?

I dread to think why Christopher Timothy has his sleeves rolled up.


scared
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#556836 - 30/01/19 08:19 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: PaulV]
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Hey there's a Morgan on TV this Saturday just thought I'd mention it!
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#556837 - 30/01/19 08:25 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Roger Tapley]
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Originally Posted By Roger Tapley
Hey there's a Morgan on TV this Saturday just thought I'd mention it!


Not on mine there won’t
I’m doing my yoga
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#556882 - 31/01/19 06:03 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Roger Tapley]
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Originally Posted By Roger Tapley
Hey there's a Morgan on TV this Saturday just thought I'd mention it!


Recorder set.
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#556894 - 31/01/19 08:30 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Stewart S]
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I’m doing my yoga

I wish I hadn't mentioned yoga now! grin2
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#556917 - 31/01/19 10:34 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys. Channel 4. [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By Stewart S
I’m doing my yoga

I wish I hadn't mentioned yoga now! grin2


laugh2
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#556960 - 31/01/19 02:51 PM Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Alistair]
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Originally Posted By Alistair
Does anyone know if one of them owns the car or if it is a demo/loaner ?

A gentleman called Graeme Morrison has identified himself as the owner on the Facebook group Morgan Sports Cars (UK). He says he bought it from the factory and it will be going back to Inverness in May to do the West Coast 500.
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#556970 - 31/01/19 03:36 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Hope they haven't damaged the underside as shown on the TV trailer
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#556980 - 31/01/19 04:10 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Anything is a pleasant change from the usual TV diet of soaps, dancing and cooking - get a life - get a Morgan.
The 1936 4/4 (should be 4-4) must have had quite a resto job done on it to make it look like a 2 year old - maybe I should go in for the same treatment.
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#557005 - 31/01/19 05:43 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PhilRoyle]
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Don't be too sure about 4-4 Phil. There may have only been one car with that logo. It's a bit like the "wood chassis" myth...
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#557033 - 31/01/19 08:01 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Don't be too sure about 4-4 Phil. There may have only been one car with that logo. It's a bit like the "wood chassis" myth...

Ken Hill's book Completely Morgan Four Wheelers 1936-1968 has this to say on the subject:

"The designation '4-4' had been decided upon because the car had four wheels and four cylinders. This simple formula has been used for model names for all four-wheeled Morgans since. However, after the war, the company, for some obscure reason, changed the actual style of the name from 4-4 to 4/4, which has been the norm ever since."
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#557094 - 01/02/19 08:09 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: tmg513]
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I know what Ken Hill's, and every other Morgan history book quotes.
However, there is evidence that very few cars actually had the 4-4 designation, but it stuck - a bit like the wood chassis myth. It's one of those things lost in the mists of time.
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#557114 - 01/02/19 09:45 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
I know what Ken Hill's, and every other Morgan history book quotes.
However, there is evidence that very few cars actually had the 4-4 designation, but it stuck - a bit like the wood chassis myth. It's one of those things lost in the mists of time.


Yes, there's been a cartload of research done by John Merton among others. Apparently no-one has ever found a "4-4", all the early cars have "4/4" on their id plates and documentation.

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Designations

First let's get the designation of these cars correct.

It has become almost an axiom in Morgan circles to regard the pre-war cars as 4-4's and the post-war cars as 4/4's. However, this is utterly incorrect, as the cars have always been 4/4's and never 4-4's.

On their introduction, in publicity and advertising material, they were described as 4-4's and also, before World War 11, as 4/4's, Four Fours, 4.4's and in various other ways. They continued to be referred to as both 4-4's and 4/4's after the War.

However, the Factory build register for these vehicles, essentially the car's pedigree, which lists the model, the body type, the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers, the colour etc, lists every car from the very first as a 4/4. Additionally, apart from the earliest cars, the Coventry Climax-engined models carried a vehicle Identification Plate on the vertical rear right of the engine block which prefixed the chassis number as "4/4". The owner Instruction Books which came with the cars specified 4/4 both before and after the War. And the most commonly used bell housing on these cars carried "4/4" cast into the right hand flange.

So despite what the books, so-called marque experts, myriad magazine articles, including the new Factory-sponsored "Mog" magazine, and latterly a host of websites, may claim, Morgan has never actually produced a 4-4 car. The cars have always been 4/4's. Got it?

Roadster history.

The two seater roadster was first announced late in 1935 with customer supplies starting in March 1936. The last car, also a roadster, was despatched from the factory on 13 March 1951. This car survives, in beautifully restored form. The cars became known as Series 1's retrospectively when the Series 11 4/4 was introduced in the mid 1950's. There were numerous detail changes in specification and design over the production life of these cars which are outside the scope of this Manual, although some are covered to some extent under other headings and references.
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#557119 - 01/02/19 10:08 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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^^^ That's interesting.



Factory advert from 1936.
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#557123 - 01/02/19 10:19 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Great Ad.... two questions, why Ten and is the Stevenson jacking system like a jack-all inbuilt system?
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#557133 - 01/02/19 10:49 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: jbk]
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I've got the Light Car magazine from the week after with a review of the Olympia show. I'll see if there's anything in the text.
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#557339 - 01/02/19 08:40 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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That advert shows the exact configuration as my first Morgan, even down to the hubcaps.
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#557343 - 01/02/19 08:48 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: rainbowj]
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That advert shows the exact configuration as my first Morgan, even down to the hubcaps.


You lucky fella
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#557360 - 01/02/19 09:43 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: jbk]
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Great Ad.... two questions, why Ten and is the Stevenson jacking system like a jack-all inbuilt system?


Ten would be the RAC horsepower, bore in inches squared time the number of cylinders divided by 2.5.

Stevenson Jacking System


Edited by David_E (01/02/19 09:44 PM)
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#557379 - 01/02/19 10:29 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Here is an article from Motorsport in 1937 referring to the first win for the Morgan 4/4.

First victory for Morgan

So why did all the early advertisements call it the 4-4? Surely 1 is better than 0.
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#557382 - 01/02/19 10:42 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Thanks for info David, pity the inbuilt jacking was dropped, be great for lifting the front for greasing.


Edited by jbk (01/02/19 10:58 PM)
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#557394 - 02/02/19 06:22 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: jbk]
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Thanks for info David, pity the inbuilt jacking was dropped, be great for lifting the front for greasing.


Now that would be a good addition to a Morgan
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#557491 - 02/02/19 05:47 PM Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: David_E]
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So why did all the early advertisements call it the 4-4?

I guess the whim of a copywriter? Perhaps they thought buyers might confuse "4/4" for the price! Having said that, what is the price? There is no currency specified, pounds sterling presumably or is it guineas?

The advert doesn't seem to have been very well proofread unless the car has a total of 4 spare wheels and tyres.

Anyway, back on topic ... the programme is on shortly!

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#557498 - 02/02/19 06:19 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: David_E]
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Originally Posted By David_E
Originally Posted By jbk
Great Ad.... two questions, why Ten and is the Stevenson jacking system like a jack-all inbuilt system?


Ten would be the RAC horsepower, bore in inches squared time the number of cylinders divided by 2.5.

Stevenson Jacking System


Gosh: The Plus 8 is 35 RAC BHP!!
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#557515 - 02/02/19 07:59 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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I guess the whim of a copywriter? Perhaps they thought buyers might confuse "4/4" for the price!


By George, I think you might be bob on there Ian

I think that’s exactly why
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#557518 - 02/02/19 08:31 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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#557519 - 02/02/19 08:43 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Why don't they know how to fold the hood down???
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#557520 - 02/02/19 08:59 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Well I thought it was rather good

Enjoyed that
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#557521 - 02/02/19 09:02 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Peter J]
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Why don't they know how to fold the hood down???


They were unlucky with the weather, but even so, they should have gone topless, it’s not like they looked after the underside, a bit of damp wouldn’t be a big problem.

I really laughed at the dead end, I’ve done similar several times, it’s why my wife doesn’t like me driving!

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#557522 - 02/02/19 09:03 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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That was a charming little program and a good advert for Morgan but its our age group once again, loved the ferry bit ouch.


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#557524 - 02/02/19 09:07 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Peter J]
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Why don't they know how to fold the hood down???


I think they would have but my guess is that they were concerned that the cameras and equipment on each side of the screen facing the actors would have got wet

I think they’ll only drop the hood when it’s definitely dry
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#557525 - 02/02/19 09:11 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Didn't the car sound lovely.
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#557526 - 02/02/19 09:13 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: nick w]
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Didn't the car sound lovely.
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Yes those overhead drone shots with the exhaust note were great
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#557527 - 02/02/19 09:21 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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The shots of the suspension in action were a nice touch too, but they made me cringe every time they slammed the doors shut, I’d have kicked his backside if he did that to my car! laugh2

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#557531 - 02/02/19 09:28 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Charming film..as you say the overhead shots and the shots over the louvred bonnet show off the car well.

Sometimes we forget how endearing our cars are to observers.

I have never seen my car on the move..mainly because nobody else is allowed to drive it !!!
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#557532 - 02/02/19 09:30 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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I enjoyed it and loved the Citroen/Guzzi 3 wheeler - I cringed as he drove it down the unmade military road though. Looking forward to next weeks.
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#557535 - 02/02/19 09:36 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: ewn]
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Originally Posted By ewn

I missed it when up there last September...
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#557545 - 02/02/19 10:40 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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It was a good advert for the Morgan. I'm surprised it wasn't a factory car however?

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#557564 - 03/02/19 07:34 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Very enjoyable to watch and looking to next week's episode
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#557566 - 03/02/19 07:55 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Got the feeling that Christopher Timothy wasn't enjoying it as much as Peter Davidson. He didn't really seem dressed for comfortable travelling either. The empty roads looked very inviting. Next week's trip down to Lands End will look very different.
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#557573 - 03/02/19 08:26 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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By the end of the series it will be a high milage car compared with a lot of Morgans.
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#557574 - 03/02/19 08:30 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: +8Rich]
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I enjoyed it and loved the Citroen/Guzzi 3 wheeler - I cringed as he drove it down the unmade military road though. Looking forward to next weeks.


I loved the name that the owner had given to the Pembleton; Snotamog.
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#557589 - 03/02/19 10:00 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Lord Sward]
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It was a good advert for the Morgan. I'm surprised it wasn't a factory car however?

What makes you think it wasn't? As mentioned earlier, the current owner bought it from the factory after the programme was made.
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#557595 - 03/02/19 10:18 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: +8Rich]
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I enjoyed it and loved the Citroen/Guzzi 3 wheeler - I cringed as he drove it down the unmade military road though. Looking forward to next weeks.


Was that a Pembleton?

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#557597 - 03/02/19 10:31 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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What a waste to do that drive with the hood up when you can only see through the letter box of a windscreen. I guess they had to do that to be able to record their conversation? It has to be really wet for me to put mine on!
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#557599 - 03/02/19 10:36 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Rob Thornton]
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Got the feeling that Christopher Timothy wasn't enjoying it as much as Peter Davidson. He didn't really seem dressed for comfortable travelling either. The empty roads looked very inviting. Next week's trip down to Lands End will look very different.


Christopher Timothy looks good for 78 though

I’m not surprised he wasn’t as comfortable as Davison being older but don’t forget he got his limp for a very serious car accident back in the late 70’s

Others have mentioned the lack of hood down driving, I have a hunch that that was so the camera and recording equipment didn’t get wet

There was a quick flash of the windscreen in one shot showing all the camera and recording devices stuck to the inside of the screen at both sides which must have made it very difficult to drive as the screen is small enough already
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#557601 - 03/02/19 10:45 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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The ten minutes I watched were dull as ditchwater.
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#557606 - 03/02/19 11:05 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Go pro on the bonnet didn't mind the rain!

Closing the side screen over the outside flap of the roof had me shaking my head.

Probably the main reason mog owners drive topless, as it's a bit of a fiddle to close and hold the outer part outside while inside closing the door. wink
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#557607 - 03/02/19 11:12 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: milligoon]
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Originally Posted By milligoon
Go pro on the bonnet didn't mind the rain!

Closing the side screen over the outside flap of the roof had me shaking my head.

Probably the main reason mog owners drive topless, as it's a bit of a fiddle to close and hold the outer part outside while inside closing the door. wink

I've cured that using magnets.... I'll post my solution if anyone's interested.
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#557626 - 03/02/19 12:09 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Originally Posted By Ian Wegg
Originally Posted By Lord Sward
It was a good advert for the Morgan. I'm surprised it wasn't a factory car however?

What makes you think it wasn't? As mentioned earlier, the current owner bought it from the factory after the programme was made.


The registration suggests that it was one of the factory hire cars or demonstrator. I may be wrong but I’m sure Ian or Graham can confirm.
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#557629 - 03/02/19 12:13 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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It was brilliant product placement, and can only be good for Morgan.
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#557642 - 03/02/19 12:52 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: M3W55]
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Originally Posted By +8Rich
I enjoyed it and loved the Citroen/Guzzi 3 wheeler - I cringed as he drove it down the unmade military road though. Looking forward to next weeks.


Was that a Pembleton?



Yes it was - normally fitted with the Citroen 602cc engine - so this was a bit quick I would think.
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#557651 - 03/02/19 01:01 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Great for Morgan.

I thought the program was a little slow.
The bit with the ferry made me cringe after taking a few sumps of mine!
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#557660 - 03/02/19 01:44 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Loved the programme
clearly Peter Davidson was not a Morgan owner!
Certainly needs lessons in driving!
But
I shall watch the series
I used to live and work in that area of Scotland in the late 1970s.
I've travelled those roads thumbs
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#557661 - 03/02/19 01:45 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Where did they store all their luggage? Bit cheaty....
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#557664 - 03/02/19 01:47 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Neilda]
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Where did they store all their luggage? Bit cheaty....
. In the following camera car.
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#557665 - 03/02/19 01:48 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Neilda]
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Where did they store all their luggage? Bit cheaty....


In the following vehicle that was in shot several times.
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#557667 - 03/02/19 01:54 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: milligoon]
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The comments on the series sound very tempting. I would have loved to see the film (I drove the track myself many years ago).

Unfortunately it is not possible to receive Channel 4 outside the UK. On YouTube there is only the trailer. ooo
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#557669 - 03/02/19 02:28 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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It was almost OK but only just, I feel. Casting could have been better, perhaps with two naughty old men who had a few jolly japes now and again.
Any suggestions?
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#557682 - 03/02/19 03:14 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: athelstan]
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Perhaps Tim West and Prunella Scales a la canal programme to get that warm sentimental/old romantic feeling or perhaps a more modern take using Mr and Mrs Kemp (dare I say for that New Romantic feeling😇) ....
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#557706 - 03/02/19 04:28 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Or Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon...another version of their series

The Trip would be a good choice .
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#557712 - 03/02/19 04:36 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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I really enjoyed the programme, I'm looking forward to the next episodes.

The Pembleton "Snotamog" was a highlight. The owner also used to own a Morgan called "Tizamog" smile





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#557721 - 03/02/19 05:10 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Northernmorgan]
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan

The registration suggests that it was one of the factory hire cars or demonstrator. I may be wrong but I’m sure Ian or Graham can confirm.

Don't know J.
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#557723 - 03/02/19 05:14 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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#557733 - 03/02/19 06:30 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Originally Posted By Ian Wegg
I really enjoyed the programme, I'm looking forward to the next episodes.


Me too, I thought it was excellent. Lovely to see some of my favourite roads from the air. It would perhaps have been even better if they had driven the B862 rather than the B852, but that's just me being picky.

I don't blame them for keeping the hood up most of the time either, the weather looked to be less than perfect a lot of the time.
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#557734 - 03/02/19 06:38 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Yes I enjoyed the programme. I was pleasently surprised that the 4/4 seems set for the whole series. Usually, in this type of programme the car is changed for each episode.
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#557735 - 03/02/19 06:46 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Michael P]
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The comments on the series sound very tempting. I would have loved to see the film (I drove the track myself many years ago).

Unfortunately it is not possible to receive Channel 4 outside the UK. On YouTube there is only the trailer. ooo


VPN to a UK server. Someone like https://www.expressvpn.com
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#557740 - 03/02/19 07:06 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Michael P
The comments on the series sound very tempting. I would have loved to see the film (I drove the track myself many years ago).

Unfortunately it is not possible to receive Channel 4 outside the UK. On YouTube there is only the trailer. ooo


VPN to a UK server. Someone like https://www.expressvpn.com

Tim thank you for the hint! Thats exactly the way I tried but the quality was extermly poor frown2
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#557741 - 03/02/19 07:07 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Hamwich]
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I've used various VPNs o er the years. I currently use NordVPN which seems excellent, and you can choose which country you wish to appear to be in, rather than being a UK only one.
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#557742 - 03/02/19 07:14 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: pandy]
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I have used "Hide my IP VPN" which has quite promising reviews. It was the first try on Saturday. For videos on demand it worked quite well but not for the live stream.
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#557749 - 03/02/19 08:45 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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I think it would be funnier with the Hot Mogs in two cars.

Ian and Jays and the two Steves.

That would be worth watching.

Especially under canvas...........

*thinking* was it Hot Mogs.?? Oh whatever.
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#557753 - 03/02/19 08:55 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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It was a good advert for the Morgan. I'm surprised it wasn't a factory car however?

What makes you think it wasn't? As mentioned earlier, the current owner bought it from the factory after the programme was made.


The fact it was a 4/4. I'd have assumed something more powerful from the factory.

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#557754 - 03/02/19 08:55 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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#557766 - 03/02/19 11:20 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Really Gentlemen!....No flattering comments regarding the charming and rather "tasty" lassie engaged as a ferry deckhand? love

Seems evident that our two adventurous protagonists
wasted little time in attempting to "chat her up." wink
I certainly would have looked upon it as significantly aberrant male behavior if they hadn't done so! Devil6

IMV that brief footage was the highlight of a mediocre Episode One... hide
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#557782 - 04/02/19 08:04 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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Happy Birthday Stewart!

Bert, she wasn't on duty when a group of us crossed a few years ago, sadly!
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Ferry website
http://skyeferry.co.uk/

BBC:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-39513020

It would seem some work is needed on the slipway at Glenelg:
https://www.facebook.com/GlenelgSkyeFerry/posts/1984889358274655

There is also a book about Scotland's Turntable Ferries:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SCOTLANDS-TURNTABLE-FERRIES-JOHN-HENDY/dp/1906608695

And there are a number of YouTube videos smile
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#557805 - 04/02/19 10:34 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Thanks Graham cheers
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#557815 - 04/02/19 11:05 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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51 Stewart ?....a guess although you look younger !!!

You are a style icon !!!!


HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!


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#557816 - 04/02/19 11:09 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: KEVFITZ]
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51 Stewart ?....a guess although you look younger !!!

You are a style icon !!!!


HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!


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#557818 - 04/02/19 11:14 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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Oh Yeah!!!

Happy Birthday Stewart! wine
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#557823 - 04/02/19 11:18 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Happy Birthday Stewart!
And continue with your posts that always have a special good sense of humor.
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#557825 - 04/02/19 11:24 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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#557832 - 04/02/19 12:21 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Lord Sward]
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Originally Posted By Lord Sward
The fact it was a 4/4. I'd have assumed something more powerful from the factory.

The premise is that they are driving on 1930's roads using a 1935 road map so it really had to be the original model.

If they had been doing a European Grand Tour then perhaps one of the more corpulent variants might have been appropriate; but for the single track, twisty UK country lanes of this programme the nimble 4/4 is surely the obvious choice?
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#557836 - 04/02/19 12:32 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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Thanks Graham cheers


is it your Bday today, 4th ? same here, 51 today

happy birthday, Stewart cheers
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#557838 - 04/02/19 12:33 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Me and the wife really enjoyed the show last night. My wife is Scottish and weve been 'darn sarf' since 2000. Im sure I saw here tear up at one point. She misses the old country i guess hahaha


Edited by Bonesie (04/02/19 12:39 PM)
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#557842 - 04/02/19 12:58 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Thanks for the birthday wishes chaps

cheers
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#557849 - 04/02/19 01:20 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Bonesie]
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Originally Posted By Bonesie
...is it your Bday today, 4th ? same here, 51 today

And happy birthday to you, too! smile
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#557874 - 04/02/19 04:07 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: DaveW]
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Originally Posted By DaveW
I think it would be funnier with the Hot Mogs in two cars.

Ian and Jays and the two Steves.

That would be worth watching.

Especially under canvas...........

*thinking* was it Hot Mogs.?? Oh whatever.



WILD MOGS 🙄.......although two of the four are now Mogless! Yep.....I can see Ian and me squashed into my Ulster fighting off the midges. 🤓

I did the ferry four years or so ago....the rather nice lady was there and the dog. On the GS so a tad easier getting on board than the mess they made of it.

Happy birthday Stewart and Bonesie 🍷🍷


Edited by Northernmorgan (04/02/19 04:08 PM)
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#557877 - 04/02/19 04:24 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Northernmorgan]
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Yep.....I can see Ian and me squashed into my Ulster fighting off the midges. 🤓

I'd like to be there with a camera! grin2
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#557879 - 04/02/19 04:39 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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Happy birthday ,Stewart and Bonesie.
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#557924 - 04/02/19 07:10 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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#557949 - 04/02/19 08:25 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: BobtheTrain]
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Happy birthday ,Stewart and Bonesie.


Thanks Bob and Jays
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#557951 - 04/02/19 08:26 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: BobtheTrain]
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Happy birthday ,Stewart and Bonesie.


How did it go today Bob?
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#557962 - 04/02/19 08:50 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Happy birthday Stewart, fitted your neoprene gap filler to the mirrors - looks good !
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#557965 - 04/02/19 08:56 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: CooperMan]
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Happy birthday Stewart, fitted your neoprene gap filler to the mirrors - looks good !


Good stuff glad they arrived safely and cheers
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#557983 - 04/02/19 10:10 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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How did it go today Bob?

OK, Thanks for asking. I asked what the results meant but was told "I'm not a doctor". I don't think they would be allowed to say anything anyway. Now it's up to the DVLA to get it's act together.
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#558007 - 05/02/19 07:51 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: BobtheTrain]
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I hope they don't take too long Bob.
Excellent windscreen sticker BTW thumbs
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#558015 - 05/02/19 08:23 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: CooperMan]
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Happy birthday Stewart, fitted your neoprene gap filler to the mirrors - looks good !


Who's neoprene gap filler? smirk2
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#558022 - 05/02/19 09:04 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: DaveW]
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Happy birthday Stewart, fitted your neoprene gap filler to the mirrors - looks good !


Who's neoprene gap filler? smirk2


Ok, ok, point taken blush
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#558028 - 05/02/19 09:48 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: DaveW]
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Happy birthday Stewart, fitted your neoprene gap filler to the mirrors - looks good !


Who's neoprene gap filler? smirk2


Not who’s, it’s whose!
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#558053 - 05/02/19 01:28 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Stewart S]
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Happy birthday Stewart, fitted your neoprene gap filler to the mirrors - looks good !


Who's neoprene gap filler? smirk2


Not who’s, it’s whose!



Yeah, my idle grammar undermines my inate pedantry...……….
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#558087 - 05/02/19 04:44 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: DaveW]
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Happy birthday Stewart, fitted your neoprene gap filler to the mirrors - looks good !


Who's neoprene gap filler? smirk2


Not who’s, it’s whose!



Yeah, my idle grammar undermines my inate pedantry...……….



You shouldn't talk about your Grandma like that!
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#558158 - 05/02/19 10:36 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Took a cruiser along Loch Ness last year and the Caledonian canal - can’t remember the Nessy Hunter.

Surprised the local council planning officials allowed the van to turn into a permanent shore shack.
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#558201 - 06/02/19 09:16 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Clipper]
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Took a cruiser along Loch Ness last year and the Caledonian canal - can’t remember the Nessy Hunter.

Surprised the local council planning officials allowed the van to turn into a permanent shore shack.

Yes, I found that a bit odd. He said he was having a boring time installing alarm systems in Surrey so decided to do something with his life. I'm not sure that spending the next 25 years in a Bedford van staring at a lake was a great improvement.
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#558213 - 06/02/19 10:39 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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Took a cruiser along Loch Ness last year and the Caledonian canal - can’t remember the Nessy Hunter.

Surprised the local council planning officials allowed the van to turn into a permanent shore shack.

Yes, I found that a bit odd. He said he was having a boring time installing alarm systems in Surrey so decided to do something with his life. I'm not sure that spending the next 25 years in a Bedford van staring at a lake was a great improvement.


He has an online blog and is probably quite a tourist interest himself so the local council probably tolerates it as one of those quirky anomalies that promotes tourism

www.nessiehunter.co.uk
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#558219 - 06/02/19 10:55 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ian Wegg]
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I'm not sure that spending the next 25 years in a Bedford van staring at a lake was a great improvement.


Ah dunno, Guys obviously happy. Does what he want when he wants. Got zero debt, meets lots of interesting people, fresh clean air, out of the rat race. Sounds alright to me. I would require a bigger living space though! laugh2


Edited by Bonesie (06/02/19 11:00 AM)
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#558267 - 06/02/19 03:26 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Instead of getting stiffed by my local caravan reseller some years ago, Just wished I had been smart enough to park my old Elddis tourer on the shores of Windemere while researching the Bowness monster. budster boat :ghost:
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#558310 - 06/02/19 06:02 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Clipper]
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Surprised the local council planning officials allowed the van to turn into a permanent shore shack.

They might well have moved him on if he was on the North (A82) side...
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#558398 - 07/02/19 09:58 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: David_E]
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Originally Posted By David_E
Here is an article from Motorsport in 1937 referring to the first win for the Morgan 4/4.

First victory for Morgan

So why did all the early advertisements call it the 4-4? Surely 1 is better than 0.

https://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/mmc/historypages/history3.html

The factory refers to the early ones as 4-4s even today. No wonder there's confusion.
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#558402 - 07/02/19 10:50 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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The thing to take away from this example is that you can't be definitive about Morgan. The company doesn't work to logical documentation standards which would satisfy an historian, researcher or anyone seeking clarity.

The examples are endless, and would make a wonderful glossary and source of argument.

Dates of changes are impossible to determine, even something as simple as the cessation of the galvanized chassis on the trad. Some were held back so there are cars later than you might think with galvanized chassis.

I could drone on about it but I'll stop there.
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#558405 - 07/02/19 11:08 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: DaveW]
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Originally Posted By DaveW
The thing to take away from this example is that you can't be definitive about Morgan. The company doesn't work to logical documentation standards which would satisfy an historian, researcher or anyone seeking clarity.

The examples are endless, and would make a wonderful glossary and source of argument.

Dates of changes are impossible to determine, even something as simple as the cessation of the galvanized chassis ion the trad. Some were held back so there are cars later than you might think with galvanized chassis.

I could drone on about it but I'll stop there.

Don't stop there Dave, it's interesting. Keep going. More!
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#558408 - 07/02/19 11:40 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Bonesie]
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Originally Posted By Bonesie
Originally Posted By Clipper
I'm not sure that spending the next 25 years in a Bedford van staring at a lake was a great improvement.


Ah dunno, Guys obviously happy. Does what he want when he wants. Got zero debt, meets lots of interesting people, fresh clean air, out of the rat race. Sounds alright to me. I would require a bigger living space though! laugh2

And a garage / workshop for the Morgan cloud9
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#558473 - 07/02/19 05:42 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: DaveW]
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The thing to take away from this example is that you can't be definitive about Morgan. The company doesn't work to logical documentation standards which would satisfy an historian, researcher or anyone seeking clarity.

And neither did (nor do) journalists laugh2
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#558479 - 07/02/19 05:58 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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I bet you could write a book about it Dave !!!
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#558496 - 07/02/19 06:39 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Yes Veloce Publishing sent out a request via MSCC last month for someone to write a Morgan Buyers Guide

Another book Dave?
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#558509 - 07/02/19 08:29 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Stewart S]
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Yes Veloce Publishing sent out a request via MSCC last month for someone to write a Morgan Buyers Guide

Another book Dave?



Funny thing was, I offered my original book to Veloce, but they left it without getting back to me for about six weeks, and by then Crowood had jumped on it.

A Plus 8 buyers guide would be a nightmare to get anywhere near right, and there isn't enough material for a stand alone book about just buying a Plus 8. Or just the Plus 4.

There's a definitive Plus 8 book in progress right now. It's not me! And I won't share any more details but it will be a must have book.

Something to look forward to!
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#558904 - 09/02/19 08:59 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Entertaining enough episode, but way too many people around for a great driving road.

Not having known of Chris before, I quite like his style, pity he doesn’t seem to like the car though.

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#558921 - 09/02/19 10:50 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Annoying silver balance weights on black wire wheels!!!


Painted mine black when I had an all black 4/4 on black wires.

Just looks finished in my opinion
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#558923 - 09/02/19 10:53 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Still really enjoying the series

Thought tonight’s was a nice watch

That silver wheel weight is bugging me though

And the constant trapping of the hood in the sidescreen until the very end
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#558924 - 09/02/19 10:58 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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I enjoyed it, though slamming the doors makes me cringe as does the hood trapped in the side screens.
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#558947 - 10/02/19 08:47 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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I enjoyed it but A30? They seemed to have kept off it a lot of the time! I was amused by the amount of luggage Chris had and they still managed to fit in a picnic table and chairs 🙄
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#558949 - 10/02/19 08:50 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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I'll have to watch the re-run.
Fell asleep somewhere around them pushing first vintage car.
They were in a pub when I woke up...
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#558952 - 10/02/19 09:07 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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The pub with the everlasting fire? Blimey that place brought back memories! I’ve only been once. My wife had just died and I was moping about aimlessly and my motor bike club persuaded me to meet up with them there for a weekend camping on Dartmoor. My first camping since a teenager....cheap (very) tent and sleeping bag....and it got me hooked. My wife would have turned over in her grave as she hated the idea of anything without an en-suite!
A weekend of memories....the most amazing stars...I was use to West Midlands light pollution....sliding down a very steep narrow gravelled lane on Dartmoor with my abs going ten to a dozen and an elderly lady in a Morris Minor reversing all the way down quite rapidly so I didn’t hit her😳. And then at the end of the weekend turning west instead of straight home...I fancied Lands End. Of course the heavens opened and the rest of the trip was very wet...I arrived home cold and soaked around 3am.
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#558984 - 10/02/19 10:43 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Northernmorgan]
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A difficult time.
The bit about the fire did intrigue me - must be fun trying to remove the spent ashes grin2
Last time I went camping (borrowed tent from sister) was in 1992 - a charity m/c ride JoGLE. Nearly lost the tent on the last day running back to Cheltenham. It was a good ride with the "Bike Aid" group. Wouldn't go camping now - value my comfort - in a good pub preferably smile
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#559004 - 10/02/19 12:08 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Northernmorgan]
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I was amused by the amount of luggage Chris had and they still managed to fit in a picnic table and chairs 🙄


They must be testing the new "Tardis" 4/4 laugh2 SWMBO would like me to get one of those ooo I did notice that when Chris got in the car he passed his bag to Peter, then it magically disappeared confused2

No sign of the Transit van following behind them with their gear.

It did tickle me that on one of the few occasions they put the roof down it rained laugh2
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#559005 - 10/02/19 12:24 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Perhaps the way to go touring in a Mog is to get a group together and have a Transit acting as luggage carrier and mobile workshop?

They seemed to be enjoying the experience, and the car, Peter rather more than Chris.

I agree, they didn't seem to spend much time on the A30: I know it well as it is my preferred route from Salisbury to Heathrow. Slower but more predictable than the M3.

Back in the 60s it took Dad, driving the family Ford Zodiac, all day to drive from Esher, Surry to Portreath, where we used to have our holidays. According to Google Maps following the same route, A3 then A30, it is just 6 hours and 270 miles.

I think cars and roads have improved a lot.....
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#559020 - 10/02/19 02:14 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Pity we didn't see the realities, like negotiating the parked cars at Milborne Port, the pinch point at Wilton, driving through Basingstoke or Yeovil ( a quick blatt down Babylon Hill wouldn't have gone amiss)

It certainly paints an image of quieter roads of a time gone by, how much ended up on the digital cutting room floor I wonder?
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#559029 - 10/02/19 02:43 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: milligoon]
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Don’t you also wonder just how far the car is trailered between each take?
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#559043 - 10/02/19 04:04 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Northernmorgan]
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
Don’t you also wonder just how far the car is trailered between each take?

Oh you naughty cynic!
I do wonder how they sweep that chimney with the fire still alight.......
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#559091 - 10/02/19 08:33 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: nick w]
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
Don’t you also wonder just how far the car is trailered between each take?

Oh you naughty cynic!
I do wonder how they sweep that chimney with the fire still alight.......
Nick


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#559099 - 10/02/19 09:14 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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Really enjoying the series - try and get down to Cornwall and/or Dartmoor at least a couple of times a year. Met my Mrs on a dig in Dartmoor about 16 years ago.

This year will be my first camping trip to Dartmoor in the Morgan (the joy of a 4 seater!)

Looking forward to next weeks - for a while I was living in Tregaron and the Mrs was in Bangor, so hoping to see a few of the old haunts, and the roads in between.
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#559112 - 10/02/19 11:06 PM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: Peter J]
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Perhaps the way to go touring in a Mog is to get a group together and have a Transit acting as luggage carrier and mobile workshop?



You'd have to drive pretty fast to keep up with a Tranny van hide
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#559169 - 11/02/19 01:30 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: KEVFITZ]
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Originally Posted By KEVFITZ
Annoying silver balance weights on black wire wheels!!!


Painted mine black when I had an all black 4/4 on black wires.

Just looks finished in my opinion


Kev, agree 100%, these things really tick my OCD box

When my recent Roadster was in chassis build I mentioned no knock on, or exposed weights please ! And to my amazement they remembered
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#559171 - 11/02/19 02:06 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Correct. Black is black and that's that!


Edited by SFG (11/02/19 02:08 PM)
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#559188 - 11/02/19 04:01 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: SFG]
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Correct. Black is black and that's that!


I spy a 'touch of brass' looks well with the black
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#559210 - 11/02/19 05:31 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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#559216 - 11/02/19 05:53 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: SFG]
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Originally Posted By SFG
Correct. Black is black and that's that!

https://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/search...mp;action=click
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#560331 - 16/02/19 10:31 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Did anyone pick up from tonight’s programme that it was filmed 2017!

It’s taken a while to get to the TV
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#560337 - 16/02/19 10:45 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Yes we did, also picked up that Chris seemed to be struggling a bit in certain areas.
Best one of the trio we thought, a nice little series.
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#560343 - 17/02/19 12:32 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Lovely sunny day when they set off, but typical TV make a point of leaving the roof up to show how awkward it is for so pensioners to get in!

Ruddy stupid.
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#560352 - 17/02/19 08:46 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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I was screaming at the TV , take the roof off. Especially when you could see people in shorts in shot.

Nice series though.
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#560357 - 17/02/19 08:55 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: PaulV]
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Perhaps it's to keep the wind noise down? smile
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#560369 - 17/02/19 09:41 AM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Perhaps it's to keep the wind noise down? smile


I’m sure that’s the reason
They will have shot hours of conversation inside the Mog
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#560372 - 17/02/19 10:04 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: PaulV]
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It left me in a state of stress, all those windy roads with no rain & the hood up. Maybe I could sue them for emotional distress
rofl laugh2
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#560374 - 17/02/19 10:08 AM Re: Vintage roads great and small (TV) [Re: John V6]
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laugh2

This lot think it's time to get out in the open:


(Just a small part of a raised bed)
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#560446 - 17/02/19 04:01 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Perhaps it's to keep the wind noise down? smile
. I missed the mention of beans.
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#560488 - 17/02/19 05:47 PM Re: Great British Car Journeys (Channel 4) [Re: Ray]
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Perhaps it's to keep the wind noise down? smile
I missed the mention of beans.

rofl rofl
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