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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #556355
28/01/19 01:51 PM
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Back on this headlamp ring issue again, I suspected the Mog was a poorer fit than the old Mini

So took one off each and they are clearly quite a few mm different in depth



They (obviously) have identical 11 and 1 o'clock bayonet clips and the lower screw, but the Mini ones are 'rolled' a tiny bit tighter as they are shallower in depth and this gives a better fit



Mini left, Mog right



The Mog fit is really poor, you can see the adjusters on the inner ring through the gap, when assembled


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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #556441
28/01/19 07:43 PM
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When I had my Alfa Spider series 3 I swopped the H/L rims out for stainless ones, I wonder if they would fit the Morgan ????


Keith
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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #556457
28/01/19 09:27 PM
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Morgan rims increased in depth at some stage. Later cars have deeper rims.


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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #556482
29/01/19 07:35 AM
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Stainless Mini ones fit earlier cars. Not sure when the Morgan rims changed depth though.


Graham (G4FUJ)

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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #571026
08/04/19 12:24 PM
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Back on the headlight rings again. One now keeps coming adrift. It is out of shape. If I want to purchase new ones what car do they come from? classic mini? I have a 2014 plus 4. I noticed Graham said rims had changed in depth.


Andy
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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #571037
08/04/19 01:42 PM
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Andy, I think even on a later Mog you would just see a tiny bit more of the inner chrome bezel that screws to the actual lamp unit.

Don't buy off the web or fleaybay unless you're confident with the seller as there are some shockingly poor imports

Minispares & Minisport are both reputable and may even do the later ones (but will have zero knowledge on Mogs) & should be way more competitive than official MMC parts


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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #571042
08/04/19 02:18 PM
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Try Holdens..i bought a pair of s/s ones..good quality..

https://www.holden.co.uk/c/electrical/lighting/stoneguards_and_rims


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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #571048
08/04/19 02:56 PM
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Chilliblu Offline OP
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Thanks for the replies. The Holden rings look solid at the back. The ones I currently have seem to have sections cut out to go around the lamp holder tabs?


Andy
2014 Morgan Plus 4
BMW 530e
Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: Chilliblu] #571152
09/04/19 08:18 AM
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Andy, shouldn't be an actual cut-out, they are just indents gently folded inwards at approx 10 & 2 o'clock


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Re: Chrome Headlamp rings [Re: CooperMan] #571168
09/04/19 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By CooperMan
Andy, shouldn't be an actual cut-out, they are just indents gently folded inwards at approx 10 & 2 o'clock


Yes you are correct. they are indents, but i can't find anyone selling these with indents on them. Mini ones dont seem to have these?


Andy
2014 Morgan Plus 4
BMW 530e
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