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#556981 - 31/01/19 04:12 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: CooperMan]
howard Offline
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Originally Posted By CooperMan
Personally as an exponent of EV's, even this surprised me

WhatCar Car of the Year, is the Kia e-Niro
280 odd miles on the latest tougher WLTP range test & 80% recharge on 54 mins

I understand there are a lot of anti EV views on TM, but for me it proves even the mainstream manufacturers are serious


Nonsense - it just reflects the poor taste of the journos involved. The real EVO car of the year is a McLaren.

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#556987 - 31/01/19 04:30 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: CooperMan]
Alistair Offline
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They are not something I am ready for but I do admire how well Kia have done with the e-Niro. It seems a decent car in ICE format and very good value/range in e form. It is becoming practical for a lot more people at this point.

Hyundai/Kia have really moved their game on with the new sporty ones and the e models. I see more and more of these and less Vauxhall/Ford cars these days.
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#556994 - 31/01/19 04:43 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: Alistair]
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Originally Posted By Alistair
I see more and more of these and less Vauxhall/Ford cars these days.

Fewer.
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#557001 - 31/01/19 05:04 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: Paul F]
Richard Wood Online   NoMood
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Originally Posted By Paul F
Smart charging infrastructure is already being planned. This will enable vehicle charging to be phased in line with supply availability and will also enable vehicles to return power to the grid if connected at times of peak demand.

National Grid have some publications which are useful. The most basic one is here.


Thanks for link Paul.

So our EV's will collectively act as a massive battery to even out power demand peaks in the evenings - can't imagine that going down well with the typically self centered public despite metering to compensate innocent

Not saying the changes won't happen or eventually work but imagine a host of unforseen hurdles on the way.
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#557003 - 31/01/19 05:35 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: Paul F]
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Originally Posted By Paul F
Smart charging infrastructure is already being planned. This will enable vehicle charging to be phased in line with supply availability and will also enable vehicles to return power to the grid if connected at times of peak demand.

National Grid have some publications which are useful. The most basic one is here.


I has a talk with a local engineer who works for Scottish and Southern, who manage the Grid in this area. I asked him if I could get a 3 phase supply: he said only if they disconnected 2 or my neighbours!

The issue are the "up the pole" transformers and the conversion from 33Kv to 11Kv. Most non urban domestic users have 230v, 80A single phase feeds.
30 years ago no one could imagine this being insufficient. Now it is.

Another example: a local landowner was well down the track planning the installation of a substantial solar power station. Everything was looking good until it was discovered that the nearest sub station that could accept the power was 6km away and the cost of upgrading the 132Kv lines killed the project stone dead.

My view is that in the country, where people struggle to get 3G mobile and fast broadband running an EV is years away.
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#557010 - 31/01/19 05:55 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: Peter J]
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You could always take a feed from your solar panels Peter.
I'd like a hybrid that handles as well as the MINI though.
Every intention of connecting to my solar PV. Only trouble is winter - wonder if MMC would let me plug in while I take a tour group around smile
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#557026 - 31/01/19 07:14 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: BobtheTrain]
Alistair Offline
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Originally Posted By BobtheTrain
Originally Posted By Alistair
I see more and more of these and less Vauxhall/Ford cars these days.

Fewer.


Solly, my English is not very good. I failed the A Level twice. I spent too much time in the computer labs.
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#557029 - 31/01/19 07:44 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: Peter J]
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Registered: 18/08/14
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Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By Paul F
Smart charging infrastructure is already being planned. This will enable vehicle charging to be phased in line with supply availability and will also enable vehicles to return power to the grid if connected at times of peak demand.

National Grid have some publications which are useful. The most basic one is here.


I has a talk with a local engineer who works for Scottish and Southern, who manage the Grid in this area. I asked him if I could get a 3 phase supply: he said only if they disconnected 2 or my neighbours!

The issue are the "up the pole" transformers and the conversion from 33Kv to 11Kv. Most non urban domestic users have 230v, 80A single phase feeds.
30 years ago no one could imagine this being insufficient. Now it is.

Another example: a local landowner was well down the track planning the installation of a substantial solar power station. Everything was looking good until it was discovered that the nearest sub station that could accept the power was 6km away and the cost of upgrading the 132Kv lines killed the project stone dead.

My view is that in the country, where people struggle to get 3G mobile and fast broadband running an EV is years away.



That means I will have to continue to drive a v8 just that little bit longer , dreadful !
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#557030 - 31/01/19 07:49 PM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: CooperMan]
Alistair Offline
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Loc: Hampshire
Would there be a tax break for those that are willing to use there spare V8's as local generators for the grid during peak hours. Strap them to a treadmill/rolling road and feed the grid.

Of course we may need to get functioning silencers in some cases.
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#557141 - 01/02/19 11:07 AM Re: Shocking news - it's electric [Re: Paul F]
Heinz Offline

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Registered: 07/09/09
Posts: 3725
Loc: Cologne, Germany
Originally Posted By Paul F
Smart charging infrastructure is already being planned. This will enable vehicle charging to be phased in line with supply availability and will also enable vehicles to return power to the grid if connected at times of peak demand.

National Grid have some publications which are useful. The most basic one is here.


The idea of feeding the grid with the parked cars has already existed in this country. That was a point in earlier visions of the future. Long before the battery was declared a holy grail.
But these older thoughts to feed the grid were based on hydrogen propulsion when the cars actively generate electricity, while they park. In my view not too bad of an idea if hydrohen should work in the future.

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