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#557678 - 03/02/19 02:59 PM These guys really get it
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Wonderful fun these boys are having in their Packard Nationals - a new model to me.

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#557686 - 03/02/19 03:34 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Great find Rich, I really enjoyed that. Not sure I would like to drive one on todays roads though.
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#557703 - 03/02/19 04:26 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Reg, I got sent it by JTL it's a well presented video with a nice story. No a bit unwise on our roads these days.
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#557728 - 03/02/19 05:49 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Hearing of Packards reminds me of Garfield Wood who ploughed the fortune he made from his hydraulic dump truck invention into powerboat racing. This culminated in Miss America X.



Hearing of a British challenge to the powerboat trophy he had held for nine years, using a pair of more powerful Rolls Royce engines, he added a further two V12 1600 hp Packard Aero engines. Each inline pair were carefully timed to run as one V24 engine to avoid drivetrain issues. A little tweaking got the total output to nearly 7000 hp!

Needless to say he won in 1932 with a record speed of over 125 mph from the 39 foot long, 8 ton boat, and again the following year despite a closer British challenge.
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#557730 - 03/02/19 05:53 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Richard Wood]
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Oh that's a beauty and what a monster, I can't imagine that speed on water, 45 knots was the fastest I've been and that was quite quick enough for me.
Just imagine the sound - wonderful.


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#557731 - 03/02/19 06:20 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: lowebird]
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Reg I got it off a 90 in April chap . Hell I should still be getting breast fed if he is so good at his age .



Originally Posted By lowebird
Great find Rich, I really enjoyed that. Not sure I would like to drive one on todays roads though.

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#557743 - 03/02/19 07:22 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Originally Posted By +8Rich

Wonderful fun these boys are having in their Packard Nationals - a new model to me.



Imagine doing the hill at Prescott in that 🤓🤪
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#557744 - 03/02/19 07:33 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Northernmorgan]
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
Originally Posted By +8Rich

Wonderful fun these boys are having in their Packard Nationals - a new model to me.



Imagine doing the hill at Prescott in that 🤓🤪


That would be a wild exposed ride woohoo but heaps of fun.
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#557746 - 03/02/19 08:14 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Richard Wood]
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Originally Posted By Richard Wood
Hearing of Packards reminds me of Garfield Wood who ploughed the fortune he made from his hydraulic dump truck invention into powerboat racing. This culminated in Miss America X.



Hearing of a British challenge to the powerboat trophy he had held for nine years, using a pair of more powerful Rolls Royce engines, he added a further two V12 1600 hp Packard Aero engines. Each inline pair were carefully timed to run as one V24 engine to avoid drivetrain issues. A little tweaking got the total output to nearly 7000 hp!

Needless to say he won in 1932 with a record speed of over 125 mph from the 39 foot long, 8 ton boat, and again the following year despite a closer British challenge.


Packard v8's were in our MTB's and MGB's during WW 2 , not a good place to be if hit by shells due to large petrol tanks.
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#557755 - 03/02/19 08:59 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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It’s a super little YouTube vid
Thanks for posting
Full of atmosphere and it makes you want to don a white overall, get some goggles on and race a 1920’s car
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#557780 - 04/02/19 07:45 AM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Originally Posted By +8Rich
Oh that's a beauty and what a monster, I can't imagine that speed on water, 45 knots was the fastest I've been and that was quite quick enough for me.
Just imagine the sound - wonderful.


Funny you should mention that Rich, the most uncomfortable boat trip I ever experience was taking a power boat ( a Sealine I think) around the Isle of Wight at 45 knots. With the bows up and bouncing off the waves, it was not a pleasant experience.
The subsequent sail on a Nautor Swan 43 was far more my cup of tea.
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#557785 - 04/02/19 08:17 AM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan

Imagine doing the hill at Prescott in that 🤓🤪


Similar motors do run the hill smile

Originally Posted By Stewart S
...it makes you want to don a white overall, get some goggles on and race a 1920’s car

There are some TM members with white overalls. grin2
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#557791 - 04/02/19 09:06 AM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Great film. Thanks for posting.
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#557802 - 04/02/19 10:14 AM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Brilliant film, thanks so much for posting it Richard.
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#557875 - 04/02/19 04:17 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By Northernmorgan

Imagine doing the hill at Prescott in that 🤓🤪


Similar motors do run the hill smile

Originally Posted By Stewart S
...it makes you want to don a white overall, get some goggles on and race a 1920’s car

There are some TM members with white overalls. grin2


There are! Just need to unpick the Morgan badge off the back and find an Austin one 🙄. Anyone want a large embroidered badge....only “raced” a couple of times? rofl
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#557899 - 04/02/19 06:08 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Northernmorgan]
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just what I have been looking for, for my white overalls.

Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By Northernmorgan

Imagine doing the hill at Prescott in that 🤓🤪


Similar motors do run the hill smile

Originally Posted By Stewart S
...it makes you want to don a white overall, get some goggles on and race a 1920’s car

There are some TM members with white overalls. grin2


There are! Just need to unpick the Morgan badge off the back and find an Austin one 🙄. Anyone want a large embroidered badge....only “raced” a couple of times? rofl
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#557911 - 04/02/19 06:34 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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You are very welcome to it Steve. It is about 9” long and gold thread on dark green. It owes me nothing...it was given to me by John Worrall years ago.

Send me a PM if you want it.
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#557944 - 04/02/19 08:07 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Yes that was nice and again, Richard thanks for the post. A little gem of a video.
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#558258 - 06/02/19 02:16 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Sadly, far to many early cars collect dust in museums and in private collections. I would certainly drive a 100+ year old car myself on the open road, but I am probably an exception and to young to realize how foolish it would be.

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#562421 - 26/02/19 11:18 PM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: +8Rich]
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Nice little short video on Bentley love.


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#562436 - 27/02/19 07:46 AM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: +8Rich]
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Nice.

I once went down to Monthléry to a Bentley Drivers Club event there, in which my cousin was participating in his 1927 3 litre. It wasn't officially "racing" as such, but I was astounded at how vigorously the cars were being driven.

Interesting also to compare the massive advances in about a decade between those Bentleys and the cars of the previous film
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#562441 - 27/02/19 08:51 AM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: +8Rich]
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Brilliant. Thanks for posting.
I bet that was the best £200 he ever spent.
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#562471 - 27/02/19 11:20 AM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: pandy]
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Nice.

I once went down to Monthléry to a Bentley Drivers Club event there, in which my cousin was participating in his 1927 3 litre. It wasn't officially "racing" as such, but I was astounded at how vigorously the cars were being driven.

Interesting also to compare the massive advances in about a decade between those Bentleys and the cars of the previous film


I'll bet that was a day to remember Giles, I think the sounds that go with these cars are wonderful - I can't get enough of them at Revival.

An interesting point about the big advances between the 10 years or so.
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#562472 - 27/02/19 11:21 AM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: John V6]
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Brilliant. Thanks for posting.
I bet that was the best £200 he ever spent.


What an investment let alone the fun, I did wonder how he did with his two sows grin2
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#562477 - 27/02/19 11:44 AM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: +8Rich]
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Lovely video, thanks for posting.
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#562479 - 27/02/19 12:10 PM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: John V6]
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Originally Posted By John V6
Brilliant. Thanks for posting.
I bet that was the best £200 he ever spent.


...but then that was the going rate back then.

My Dad bought a 1928 Rolls Royce 20HP back in 1963 for £25. It had been converted from a saloon to a woody shooting brake and had been used as such on a Scottish sporting estate. He was stationed at Faslane at the time; they were preparing it for it's new use as the home for the Navy's fleet of Polaris submarines.

A couple of the engine room artificers on the base fixed the car up for him. He maintains that even the Glasgow bus drivers would get over to the correct side of the road when they saw it coming.

My Ma absolutely hated it, and ended up giving him an ultimatum 'Either that car goes, or I do". What still rankles with her to this day was that he asked her if he could have a couple of days to think about it. The car went, but it did install a certain stubborn streak in the old man, so when as a student I was under the maternal cosh over my various old Mini Coopers which were littering the drive, he'd stick up for me.


Edited by pandy (27/02/19 01:04 PM)
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#562481 - 27/02/19 12:25 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Two great videos. Thanks thumbs

As Giles knows, a trip to the Revival at Montlhery is the closest I’ve ever come to the spirit and fun of that era. Virtually all the cars there are ‘fully patinated’ and driven with gusto around the banked circuit. To see an ERA and the Norris Special Fraser- Nash thundering along wheel to wheel, at nearly 100mph, near the top of the bumpy, concrete banking, on a damp track, is truly spectacular. The drivers have my utmost admiration.
scared

WO Bentleys are way above my budget, but I was really drawn to a beautiful 1920s Rolls 20 HP, Park Ward Doctor’s Coupe that attends local events. Horizontal slatted radiator, 3 litre, straight 6. Amazingly worth about 20% of a similar era Bentley. Not a racer, but gorgeous.

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#562493 - 27/02/19 01:26 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Budster]
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Two great videos. Thanks thumbs

As Giles knows, a trip to the Revival at Montlhery is the closest I’ve ever come to the spirit and fun of that era. Virtually all the cars there are ‘fully patinated’ and driven with gusto around the banked circuit. To see an ERA and the Norris Special Fraser- Nash thundering along wheel to wheel, at nearly 100mph, near the top of the bumpy, concrete banking, on a damp track, is truly spectacular. The drivers have my utmost admiration.
scared

WO Bentleys are way above my budget, but I was really drawn to a beautiful 1920s Rolls 20 HP, Park Ward Doctor’s Coupe that attends local events. Horizontal slatted radiator, 3 litre, straight 6. Amazingly worth about 20% of a similar era Bentley. Not a racer, but gorgeous.



We have my good ladies mother in a nursing home in a fairly fragile state so we don't travel too far away these last few years but Montlhery is certainly a place I would like to experience, meanwhile I go to Goodwood Revival to get my annual fill of the era and of course it has vintage aircraft my second love.

Getting really spoilt this year, I'm off to the FOS at Goodwood too to experience the other end of the spectrum with my SIL.
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#562510 - 27/02/19 03:39 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: Budster]
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I was really drawn to a beautiful 1920s Rolls 20 HP, Park Ward Doctor’s Coupe that attends local events. Horizontal slatted radiator, 3 litre, straight 6. Amazingly worth about 20% of a similar era Bentley. Not a racer, but gorgeous.



...and the 20HP models can be very accessible. Consider this one for sale at The Classic Car Co. A charming car with all the right mods for a very affordable budget.

http://www.realcar.co.uk/view-cars/2327
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#562522 - 27/02/19 04:16 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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Maybe I could have that as my daily drive? Looks lovely.
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#562525 - 27/02/19 04:20 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: +8Rich]
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I'm really surprised at the price of that beauty I imagined prices North of 100k - it makes you think a bit.
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#562531 - 27/02/19 05:10 PM Re: These guys really get it [Re: pandy]
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Originally Posted By pandy
Consider this one for sale at The Classic Car Co.


Some very nice cars on that site, I particularly like the Jag special

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#562598 - 27/02/19 08:13 PM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: +8Rich]
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Thanks for posting the Bentley vid Rich

Very nice
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#565799 - 13/03/19 12:50 PM Re: Bentley this time these guys get it ok [Re: +8Rich]
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Great videos, really instills a sense of nostalgia and I adore the vintage racers from the pre-war era.

I admit it is one of the reasons why I love Morgan so much for having that classic style with a more usable package, I do however yearn to one day add a real pre-war racer to my garage.

Thanks for posting!


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#565931 - 13/03/19 10:34 PM Re: These guys at Goodwood too [Re: +8Rich]
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Featuring the Napier Railton and the Beast of Turin.

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#565956 - 14/03/19 04:27 AM Re: These guys at Goodwood too [Re: +8Rich]
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I’ve not quite got there with Percy ......just 0.747 litres😂

Can’t wait to see these cars hopefully at Chateau Impney this year.


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#565985 - 14/03/19 09:01 AM Re: These guys at Goodwood too [Re: +8Rich]
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So two of my roadster 3l engines + 100 cc = 1 cylinder on the beast of Turin.
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#568848 - 25/03/19 11:07 PM Re: Goodwood Edwardian race [Re: +8Rich]
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These guys get it alright, I can't get over the bravery they have in these old machines notworthy.

One of my main attractions at Revival every year is seeing some of these marvellous machines on track.




And for good luck a walk around the RIP Special 4 wheeled 3 wheeler Morgan. How brave is Charlie Martin drifting this canvas machine around in the wet.
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-cover...0tTDlG2YF_rJ04o
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