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#557794 - 04/02/19 09:12 AM Cleaning headliner?
jong Offline
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I have just acquired a 2003 Plus 8 with the easy up hood in mohair.
The inside is filthy
Any cleaning tips?
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#557796 - 04/02/19 09:27 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
CooperMan Offline

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I think DW will be the expert on this

Personally I've used Autoglym hood cleaner, it's marketed for the outer fabric, but is safe on the inside too

If you've got the pale cream, nothing seems to get it perfectly clean again as the metal frame just marks it again
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#557800 - 04/02/19 10:02 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
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I have a pale grey liner on mine and there are tide marks where water has seeped through the seams. I used mild detergent on it once but not 100% successful. I needto reseal the seams again umbrella
Cleaning a small patch also leaves a “clean” area that shows up so doing the whole thing is best.
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#557810 - 04/02/19 10:49 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
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My Roadster has the creamish hood interior. I use Meguiars exterior soft top cleaner but there's not much to chose between them.
I work on a small area with a nylon nail brush and wipe with a damp cloth. Repeat as long as it takes. I remove the head restraints but it gets steamy and hot ss you work.
To avoid watermarks I dry with a hairdryer but also mist it over with a waterspray.

I plan to put a clear protector film on the frame but so far haven't got round to it. I'm also tempted to recolour the inside black.

The stitching needs regular reproofing otherwise it leaks over the sidescreens. It doesn't drip but forms wet patches and watermarks.

The hood on my Plus 4 so far has shown no sign of wet patches and the black interior won't show watermarks.
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#557880 - 04/02/19 04:40 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
smudger1 Offline
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Try alchohol
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#557882 - 04/02/19 04:45 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: smudger1]
DaveW Offline
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Originally Posted By smudger1
Try alchohol


In tried that but kept falling asleep.......... smirk2
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#557884 - 04/02/19 04:47 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: smudger1]
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Originally Posted By smudger1
Try alchohol

I find whiskey works for me

Not sure about the hood though.
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#557887 - 04/02/19 04:58 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
jong Offline
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Increasingly sound advice!
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#557897 - 04/02/19 06:02 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
Neptune Offline

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I clean it on a sunny day, Auto Glym soft top cleaner, and use a Karcher window cleaner thingy that’s designed to take moisture off windows to finish it off.
Works a treat.

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#557904 - 04/02/19 06:23 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
Peter J Offline
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Carpet cleaning foam spray works well.
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#557918 - 04/02/19 06:54 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
Stewart S Offline
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I might be wrong so do your own reseach but as far as I know Mohair is a rubber bonded layered cloth so under no circumstances should you use a spirit based or chemical cleaner as it can damage the water repellency and that would apply to the inside as well

I think the cloth is very similar in nature to Makintosh fabric which I have on a few coats

Only a specific cleaner designed for soft top Mohair is best used which I think will just be a mild soap type cleaner

Soap and Luke warm or cold water might be a cheaper alternative
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#557919 - 04/02/19 06:55 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
DaveW Offline
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Yes it's got a rubber layer in the middle...…...
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#557933 - 04/02/19 07:31 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: DaveW]
Stewart S Offline
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Originally Posted By DaveW
Yes it's got a rubber layer in the middle...…...


Well in that case any chemical or spirit based cleaner will definately damage it then and could delaminate the cloth
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#557984 - 04/02/19 10:14 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: Stewart S]
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Originally Posted By Stewart S
delaminate the cloth

Little Bo Peep.
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#557989 - 04/02/19 10:43 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: DaveW]
Burgundymog Offline

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Originally Posted By DaveW
Yes it's got a rubber layer in the middle...…...


So Stewart has a neoprene overcoat, is this your doing? gloomy
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#557990 - 04/02/19 10:46 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
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Closet neoprene fetishism.

Not my doing. I only have wellingtons and a hot water bottle. Both are overt.
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#558026 - 05/02/19 09:36 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
CooperMan Offline

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For way of explanation, this is a piece of Mohair hood fabric off the roll

3 distinct bands can be seen, on the left is the inner black fabric with the slight cross weave texture you see inside your hood, next is the rubber inter-layer which is a sort of thin bonding layer to stick the two fabrics together, and finally on the right is the familiar outer

Be very careful with solvent cleaners, as they could cause the rubber to de-bond from the fabric

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#558029 - 05/02/19 09:50 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
Peter J Offline
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Tarka has a lined hood, some sort of velvet material and this covers the hood frame tubes. It is not a normal mohair inside colour, the hood is dark brown and the hood lining a cream beige colour and is exposed when the hood is down, so gets dirty.

I use "Vanish Gold Carpet Care Foam" and it seems to do the job well, but it is hard work as the hood has to be up and taught, so you are working in a confined space above your head!!

So now I have a hood cover: it protects the folded hood, but is a bit of a faff to fold up when not in use.
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#558030 - 05/02/19 10:16 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
CooperMan Offline

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These are the normal linings used with Mohair, its called Dobby

The beige one is notorious for marking, but does make a Mog feel brighter inside with the hood up

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#558033 - 05/02/19 10:33 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
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There's loads of info on the internet, look at Mohair or Twillfast, the other name.

I'm delighted with my offcuts Mohair underpants. Utterly waterproof.
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#558034 - 05/02/19 10:38 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: DaveW]
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Are you talking inside or outside . innocent



Originally Posted By DaveW
There's loads of info on the internet, look at Mohair or Twillfast, the other name.

I'm delighted with my offcuts Mohair underpants. Utterly waterproof.

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#558036 - 05/02/19 11:04 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: Jack The Lad]
DaveW Offline
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Originally Posted By Jack The Lad
Are you talking inside or outside . innocent

BOTH!

Originally Posted By DaveW
There's loads of info on the internet, look at Mohair or Twillfast, the other name.

I'm delighted with my offcuts Mohair underpants. Utterly waterproof.
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#558042 - 05/02/19 11:22 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: DaveW]
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Originally Posted By DaveW
Originally Posted By Jack The Lad
Are you talking inside or outside . innocent

BOTH!

Originally Posted By DaveW
There's loads of info on the internet, look at Mohair or Twillfast, the other name.

I'm delighted with my offcuts Mohair underpants. Utterly waterproof.

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#558051 - 05/02/19 01:02 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: CooperMan]
Peter J Offline
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Originally Posted By CooperMan
These are the normal linings used with Mohair, its called Dobby

The beige one is notorious for marking, but does make a Mog feel brighter inside with the hood up



This is the lining to the hood of my Plus 8



It is the same fabric as used to cover the wooden trim pieces on the hood frame.
So, do all the Aero Plus 8 cars have a lined hood, or is this another unique feature on Tarka?
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#558085 - 05/02/19 04:41 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
milligoon Offline
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If you look at the liner and where it gets dirty, you will see that it is where in its folded down state the airflow allows the traffic air dirt flow in. Probably why they make the hood cover which will get dirty instead, that a lot of us don't use and leave back at home!
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#558089 - 05/02/19 04:49 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: jong]
IvorMog Offline

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Check out Renovo Soft top cleaners. They have some useful tips alongside the products they sell.

RENOVO SOFT TOP CLEANER


Edited by IvorMog (05/02/19 05:50 PM)
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#558106 - 05/02/19 06:32 PM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: IvorMog]
jong Offline
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I wonder if the entire top and frame can be removed and the inside cleaned, inverted, in tension? Mine is/ (was) the creamy beige fabric.

But not till the weather's a bit more conducive.
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#558185 - 06/02/19 08:42 AM Re: Cleaning headliner? [Re: Peter J]
CooperMan Offline

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Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By CooperMan
These are the normal linings used with Mohair, its called Dobby

The beige one is notorious for marking, but does make a Mog feel brighter inside with the hood up



This is the lining to the hood of my Plus 8



It is the same fabric as used to cover the wooden trim pieces on the hood frame.
So, do all the Aero Plus 8 cars have a lined hood, or is this another unique feature on Tarka?


Peter that does look a bit special, I wonder if it's acoustic grade Mohair ?
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